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Subject: Re: intellec 4s and 8s...
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I=E2=80=99ve got the intellec 4 mod 40 schematics, a bit foxed, but =
legible.

Two copies of the assembly language manual and I=E2=80=99m still =
searching my office/garage for further original documents.

I=E2=80=99m sure that I=E2=80=99ve got a copy of this somewhere...

http://datasheets.chipdb.org/upload/wepwawet/INTELLEC%204.pdf

In other news, I=E2=80=99m missing the baseplate of my 4 mod 40.

The case got a bit knocked out of shape with a gravity related shelf =
incident and after a trip to the menders and a visit to the paint shop =
the lid and frame are looking great.

But I might have to get a new base plate fettled. Any comments on =
dimension, flanges and fixing hole locations? Just askin=E2=80=99...

I was ruminating on a protoboard to do a modern RAM (single chip!) and =
modern EPROM (single chip!) combo... Reduce the power supply load and =
dodge possible legacy device failures.

(AND ANYTHING TO GET AWAY FROM THOSE DAMN POWER HUNGRY 3205 DEVICES! I =
still remember getting scorched digits back in the day... Sorry.)

Regards

Sid


From: craig@sbc-85.com=20
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2023 2:03 AM
To: 'Sid Jones'=20
Subject: RE: intellec 4s and 8s...

can you remind me=E2=80=A6 do you have intellect 4 documentation?  is =
there a good clear scan of the intellect 4 documentation somewhere?  I =
can=E2=80=99t read my intellect 4 user=E2=80=99s manual hardly at all.

=20

=20

=20

=20

From: craig@sbc-85.com <craig@sbc-85.com>=20
Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2023 5:39 PM
To: 'Sid Jones' <jonesthechip@logicmagic.co.uk>
Subject: RE: intellec 4s and 8s...

=20

Hi Sid,

=20

Intel did make the imm6-70 universal prototype module.  Since it has an =
imm6 number, it could be used for either the intellect 4/40 or the 8/80 =
so I am guessing it was just a pad-per-hole sort of thing with rails for =
ground and +5.  I do not think I have ever seen a photograph of one but =
haven=E2=80=99t looked.

=20

personally, I don=E2=80=99t wirewrap anymore if it can be avoided.  =
circuit boards are too cheap (shipping is usually more than the boards). =
 That said, it would be an easy board to crank out.  Are you going to be =
ordering boards soon?

=20

do you have something in particular that you are planning to make on a =
protoboard?

=20

regards

=20

Craig

=20

=20

=20

From: Sid Jones <jonesthechip@logicmagic.co.uk>=20
Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2023 11:32 AM
To: craig@sbc-85.com
Subject: intellec 4s and 8s...

=20

Just mulling a daft idea =E2=80=93 any comments on doing a prototyping =
board for the intellec 4 and 8 series?

=20

Just asking for a friend... Well, me actually!

=20

Regards

=20

Sid

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<DIV>I=E2=80=99ve got the intellec 4 mod 40 schematics, a bit foxed, but =
legible.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Two copies of the assembly language manual and I=E2=80=99m still =
searching my=20
office/garage for further original documents.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I=E2=80=99m sure that I=E2=80=99ve got a copy of this =
somewhere...</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><A =
title=3Dhttp://datasheets.chipdb.org/upload/wepwawet/INTELLEC%204.pdf=20
href=3D"http://datasheets.chipdb.org/upload/wepwawet/INTELLEC%204.pdf">ht=
tp://datasheets.chipdb.org/upload/wepwawet/INTELLEC%204.pdf</A></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>In other news, I=E2=80=99m missing the baseplate of my 4 mod =
40.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>The case got a bit knocked out of shape with a gravity related =
shelf=20
incident and after a trip to the menders and a visit to the paint shop =
the lid=20
and frame are looking great.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>But I might have to get a new base plate fettled. Any comments on=20
dimension, flanges and fixing hole locations? Just =
askin=E2=80=99...</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I was ruminating on a protoboard to do a modern RAM (single chip!) =
and=20
modern EPROM (single chip!) combo... Reduce the power supply load and =
dodge=20
possible legacy device failures.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>(AND ANYTHING TO GET AWAY FROM THOSE DAMN POWER HUNGRY 3205 =
DEVICES! I=20
still remember getting scorched digits back in the day... Sorry.)</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Regards</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Sid</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A =
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 09, 2023 2:03 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Djonesthechip@logicmagic.co.uk=20
href=3D"mailto:jonesthechip@logicmagic.co.uk">'Sid Jones'</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> RE: intellec 4s and 8s...</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal>can you remind me=E2=80=A6 do you have intellect 4=20
documentation?&nbsp; is there a good clear scan of the intellect 4 =
documentation=20
somewhere?&nbsp; I can=E2=80=99t read my intellect 4 user=E2=80=99s =
manual hardly at=20
all.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p></o:p>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p></o:p>&nbsp;</P>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><B>From:</B> craig@sbc-85.com =
&lt;craig@sbc-85.com&gt;=20
<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 8, 2023 5:39 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'Sid =
Jones'=20
&lt;jonesthechip@logicmagic.co.uk&gt;<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: intellec 4s =
and=20
8s...<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal>Hi Sid,<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p></o:p>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>Intel did make the imm6-70 universal prototype =
module.&nbsp;=20
Since it has an imm6 number, it could be used for either the intellect =
4/40 or=20
the 8/80 so I am guessing it was just a pad-per-hole sort of thing with =
rails=20
for ground and +5.&nbsp; I do not think I have ever seen a photograph of =
one but=20
haven=E2=80=99t looked.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p></o:p>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>personally, I don=E2=80=99t wirewrap anymore if it =
can be=20
avoided.&nbsp; circuit boards are too cheap (shipping is usually more =
than the=20
boards).&nbsp; That said, it would be an easy board to crank out.&nbsp; =
Are you=20
going to be ordering boards soon?<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p></o:p>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>do you have something in particular that you are =
planning to=20
make on a protoboard?<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p></o:p>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>regards<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p></o:p>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>Craig<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p></o:p>&nbsp;</P>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><B>From:</B> Sid Jones &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:jonesthechip@logicmagic.co.uk">jonesthechip@logicmagic.co.=
uk</A>&gt;=20
<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 8, 2023 11:32 AM<BR><B>To:</B> <A=20
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intellec=20
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mulling a=20
daft idea =E2=80=93 any comments on doing a prototyping board for the =
intellec 4 and 8=20
series?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
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<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">Just =
asking for a=20
friend... Well, me actually!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
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