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Sorry Craig.  I don't.  I never ventured into the 6800 space.

Will


On 3/7/2023 11:49 PM, SBC-85 wrote:
> Hi Will,
>
> You wouldn’t happen to have the schematic or any documentation for one 
> of these Pro-Log PLS 868. 6800 card would you?
>
> Pro-Log PLS-868 c.JPG
>
>> On Mar 6, 2023, at 10:47 AM, whalphen <whalphen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> ﻿
>>
>> I saw your video on the card guides and cooling plenum. Nice job!  I 
>> already have a couple of backplanes and I have card guides.  So won't 
>> need more.
>>
>> I hope things are going well for you.  Do you have any fun projects 
>> underway?
>>
>> Here's an update on the projects I'm currently working on. (Several 
>> more in the queue, though.)
>>
>> My EPROM programmer is progressing well.  It will have two PCBs, 
>> stacked.  The first one is the power supply and controller board.  
>> It's got multiple switching converters to produce various voltage 
>> levels.  The first PCB was made and is now being tested.  The power 
>> converters all work.  I opted to put an Arduino Pro Mini on board as 
>> the microcontroller -- because it's cheap and readily available.  I 
>> only had 3.3 volt versions and expect some 5 volt versions to arrive 
>> this week.  Then I'll continue testing.  The processor will be able 
>> to enable/ disable each power supply individually.  It will also be 
>> able to measure and adjust the voltage level on each.  The plan is to 
>> use the power supply board with various EPROM socket modules. The 
>> first will be a 1702A programmer.  I have the PCB designed and it 
>> will be sent with my next PCB batch order. Next step is the 
>> software.  I'm working on a GUI to run on Windows to control the 
>> programmer via a USB connection.  I hadn't used Visual Studio in a 
>> few years and I found that the latest version doesn't seem to have 
>> the control for interfacing via serial ports anymore.  They've also 
>> greatly complicated the procedure for creating a standalone software 
>> product, i.e., a .exe file.  So I ended up rolling back to an earlier 
>> version.  Now I'm remembering why I never liked using Microsoft tools.
>>
>> I had a group of students request a design for a noise cancelling 
>> circuit for headphones.  It's just a simple analog circuit and seems 
>> to be working.  It's not as good as Bose noise cancelling, but it 
>> meets their needs as a demonstration as part of a medical product 
>> they're designing for a competition.  They also need an inverter 
>> circuit to produce about 35 volts AC from a 9 volt battery.  This 
>> will be used for controlling the opacity of a plastic lens for the 
>> same project.  I designed and built a circuit for them. It works on 
>> my workbench.  We'll test it on the lens this week.
>>
>> I guided a student through the construction of a reflow oven using a 
>> design I did a few years ago.  It's working and she was able to 
>> successfully reflow a test board.
>>
>> Another student is working on a Cyclic Voltameter as a project for a 
>> class she is in.  I had never heard of this until I looked it up.  
>> It's a pretty interesting analytical chemistry technique.  I made 
>> some improvements to her circuit and designed a PCB.  Now she is 
>> testing it and starting to get some good results with her probe.  
>> (With my town being the global headquarters of Dow Chemical, we get a 
>> lot of students interested in chemistry.  Especially if they have a 
>> PhD chemist or two in the family.)
>>
>> These projects have been keeping me from completing my GPSDO design.  
>> But I've confirmed all the parts and dimensions and tested major 
>> parts of the circuit.  Next I will be doing the PCB layouts.
>>
>> So far it's been a busy winter -- though I did find time to spend a 
>> few weeks on the gulf coast.
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> Will
>>
>> On 3/6/2023 2:27 AM, craig@sbc-85.com wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Will, I hope all is well.
>>>
>>> I forget, I know you made one also, but did I send you a STD 
>>> backplane?  I now have card guides for the backplane and if you 
>>> would like I can send you a backplane and a set of card guides.  I 
>>> can print a cooling plenum too if you are running anything that gets 
>>> hot enough to need it.
>>>
>>> Just let me know what color you would like and I can print them and 
>>> send them out to you.
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> Craig
>>>
>>> *From:* whalphen <whalphen@gmail.com>
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 10:41 AM
>>> *To:* SBC-85 <craig@sbc-85.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: 38P70 clock and companions
>>>
>>> Hi Craig.  Wow!  Nice job on the documentation!
>>>
>>> I don't need a new project -- but this one looks good enough to bump 
>>> some other project off my list.  So yeah, I'll plan on building 
>>> this.  I don't have all my old 74LS chips in my online inventory, so 
>>> I'll need to manually check them against your BOM and get any 
>>> missing parts on order.  (Actually I recently organized all my old 
>>> chips, so I might as well get them into the database while I'm at 
>>> it.  I've been using PartsBox for a few years.  It's been a great 
>>> help in managing the parts inventory -- especially for all the kits 
>>> we use with the school groups.  If you haven't seen it, check it 
>>> out. Jan Rychter has done an excellent job developing and 
>>> commercializing the product.  He's also a nice guy, readily 
>>> accessible and responsive if any problems.  And best of all, you can 
>>> use the software for free.  I think there is a stated limit on the 
>>> number of parts you can track for free, but he doesn't enforce that 
>>> limit.)
>>>
>>> I did some programming of the 38P70.  Your video on setting up the 
>>> assembler was very helpful.  And the software you provided was great 
>>> to get me back into the assembly language programming mindset.  I 
>>> used the internal counter to create a 1 KHz timebase and intend to 
>>> try using the LM331 V to F converter to do some analog measurement.  
>>> I had trouble getting the LM331 chip -- the US suppliers 
>>> distributors are all out of stock.  I received some from AliExpress, 
>>> but they turned out to be fake.  I managed to get some from Newark's 
>>> UK stock.  Now I just need to wire them up.
>>>
>>> Interestingly, Newark also showed stock on some Microchip components 
>>> I need, but after I placed the order, they sent an email stating 
>>> that they would not send the Microchip parts.  Apparently Microchip 
>>> has asked them to sell only to certain commercial customers -- and 
>>> that doesn't include me.  Unfortunately Microchip has bought up many 
>>> of the other manufacturers over the past few years, so that means 
>>> many chips are no longer readily available to individuals.  I did 
>>> notice that non-commercial customers can can still place orders 
>>> directly with Microchip, but the shipments are from Thailand and the 
>>> cost of shipping is high.  So it's a deal breaker unless I place a 
>>> large order.
>>>
>>> I've been working on building a programmer for 1702A eproms.  I have 
>>> some PIC microcontrollers and tried using one to act as a boost 
>>> converter.  It worked, except that it doesn't have quite the timing 
>>> resolution I need for the PWM.  And the ones that do are not 
>>> available.  So I decided to just use boost converter chips and 
>>> select specific voltage levels directly from the microcontroller's 
>>> GPIO pins.  My objective is to leverage the same design as a voltage 
>>> source for another programmer for 8748 processors.  But, again, I'm 
>>> having trouble sourcing parts.  The shortages are affecting even 
>>> some mosfets.  Oh well.  I have enough parts on hand to breadboard 
>>> the boost circuits.  I'll look for alternative mosfets in the 
>>> meantime.  I obtained some of them from AliExpress and they are 
>>> actually functional -- but don't know if they will meet the specs 
>>> stated in the datasheets.  AliExpress seems to be a reasonable 
>>> source for passive components, but I've had too many bad experiences 
>>> with silicon I've purchased there in the past couple of years.  But 
>>> I've always been able to easily get a refund for the bad stuff.
>>>
>>> I typically have multiple projects going in parallel. So I switched 
>>> projects and built a VHF power amp that I had on the back burner.  
>>> And also a HF power amp.  And got some more work done on a couple of 
>>> antenna projects.  I'm starting to think that I'm spending just as 
>>> much time on the task switching as on the projects themselves!
>>>
>>> Thanks for updating me on the status of the documentation for the 
>>> 8085 STD card.  It'll be good to put some of my old STD stuff to use 
>>> again.  Vintage chips may end up being the only feasible option if 
>>> the semiconductor shortages continue!
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>> Will
>>>
>>> On 7/27/2022 10:52 PM, SBC-85 wrote:
>>>
>>>     Hi Will
>>>
>>>     I have been working on the STD board this week and the
>>>     documentation.  So far the board looks good if you need a new
>>>     build project.
>>>
>>>     http://bitsofthegoldenage.org/documentation/std-8085-sbc-v1-x-documentation/
>>>
>>>     Regards
>>>
>>>     Craig
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         On Jun 23, 2022, at 9:15 AM, whalphen <whalphen@gmail.com>
>>>         <mailto:whalphen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>         ﻿
>>>
>>>         Thanks Craig.  Good job with the code.  It's been a few
>>>         years since I've done any assembly language programming.  C
>>>         and C++ have spoiled me.  It's always helpful to have some
>>>         working routines as a base to build on.  I'm not one to be
>>>         critical of others' coding.  If it works it's good.  Of
>>>         course there are always opportunities to change and improve
>>>         code -- and I always appreciate when I find some code I can
>>>         improve on.  One of the fun things about assembly language
>>>         programming on processors from the early years is when I
>>>         stumble across a way to save a byte or two of ROM or RAM. On
>>>         modern systems, there just isn't much satisfaction in saving
>>>         memory or cycles when the system runs 100 times faster than
>>>         necessary and has many kilobytes unused anyway.
>>>
>>>         I do not have a programmer for the 8755.  I never used that
>>>         chip.  The designs I worked on used the 8742, which was
>>>         basically added a slave MCS-48 processor core to the 8755. 
>>>         However, I don't have a programmer for the 8742 either.  In
>>>         our old instrument development workshop, we had a couple of
>>>         Intellec development systems.  One had an 8085 emulator in
>>>         it.  The other had an 8742 emulator in it.  Our STD designs
>>>         used the 8085 as the main processor.  And we offloaded the
>>>         user interfaces to an 8748 STD board that we custom
>>>         designed. Debugging of the software involved two people --
>>>         one running the 8085 emulator and the other running the 8742
>>>         emulator.  We also used our own STD board design for
>>>         actuating valves, mixers, and other devices.  And we
>>>         developed some measurement instruments that would plug into
>>>         the STD bus.  For example, we designed a colorometer that
>>>         used a fiber optic probe to pass a light of a specific color
>>>         through a sample stream to detect the presence of specific
>>>         chemicals.  By offloading some of the work to the 8748, we
>>>         could do more data processing on the 8085.  It was loads of
>>>         fun!  And we got paid for it!
>>>
>>>         Although I think it would be fun to play with a minimal 8085
>>>         system -- I've always kicked around the idea of building one
>>>         -- I'm not currently setup for it.
>>>
>>>         Will
>>>
>>>         On 6/22/2022 7:55 PM, craig@sbc-85.com wrote:
>>>
>>>             Hi Will
>>>
>>>             I have attached a zip file with the clock code.  Renamed
>>>             in case your antivirus or a server along the way takes
>>>             issue with a *.bin file.
>>>
>>>             I am using the dasm assembler.  Included in these is a
>>>             txt file that is the command line usage for that
>>>             assembler.  I have had a wave of people asking for a
>>>             video on setting up to program the F8.  For my channel,
>>>             two requests is a wave, any more and it is a tsunami.
>>>               So such a video is in the concept stage.
>>>
>>>             I forget my last bit of work with this and am 99% sure
>>>             this is the latest code that is what I sent you,  I know
>>>             code should stand on its own, but let me look through
>>>             the code and call forth the wisdom genie to hand out
>>>             useful pieces of advice----
>>>
>>>              1. All of the commented out PI subroutines was for
>>>                 diagnostics and no longer serve a purpose
>>>              2. You can see that I use the SET pseudo opcode
>>>                 frequently to provide a local assignment to
>>>                 registers.  I am not sure if I even tested this
>>>                 assembler to see if it gives errors if I try to
>>>                 redefine after using the EQU pseudo opcode but that
>>>                 is my policy….. EQU for things defined once, SET for
>>>                 throwaway definitions.
>>>              3. The current state of port 0 and 5 are kept in
>>>                 registers.  When modified the register value is
>>>                 changed and then sent out to the port rather than
>>>                 changing directly.
>>>              4. I am working on wiping out all of the initial clock
>>>                 set code and just have it come up with the saved
>>>                 time.  If the user wants to change they can then
>>>                 enter a change mode.
>>>              5. I thought I just commented out the serial port
>>>                 output for the splashscreen and the input test but I
>>>                 do not see them at all. But the CI and CO routines
>>>                 have been tested and were working.  1200 baud it
>>>                 says but I may have been tweaking the delay values
>>>                 and not gotten back to updating the comment.  So
>>>                 maybe 2400 but probably 1200.
>>>              6. The main loop is, as expected, the WAIT: portion of
>>>                 the code and it is called out by an interrupt to
>>>                 flip the LED.
>>>              7. All calls are only one deep so there is a noticeable
>>>                 essence of the 8008 and other stackless devices.
>>>              8. If you think this code is embarrassingly amateurish,
>>>                 you should have seen my first attempt.  This **is**
>>>                 the improved version.
>>>
>>>             If you have any questions about why I did something how
>>>             I did it, please ask.  We can then try to figure it out
>>>             together.
>>>
>>>             I am thinking of reissuing an old board I made that is
>>>             essentially the intel MCS-85 3-chip minimum system that
>>>             they put in all their MCS-85 data books.  I haven’t
>>>             bothered with this board since very few can program the
>>>             8755.  How about you? can you program 8755s and would
>>>             have a interest in such a board?
>>>
>>>             I am also thinking of resurrecting another version that
>>>             has two 8155s and two 8755s so, except for the 8279
>>>             keyboard/display controller (and keypad and display) it
>>>             basically has the same functionality as a SDK-85.  A
>>>             terminal is much easier to use than the keyboard/display
>>>             on the SDK which is why I didn’t bother with a keypad.
>>>
>>>             Regards
>>>
>>>             craig
>>>
>>>             *From:* whalphen <whalphen@gmail.com>
>>>             <mailto:whalphen@gmail.com>
>>>             *Sent:* Wednesday, June 22, 2022 3:01 PM
>>>             *To:* SBC-85 <craig@sbc-85.com> <mailto:craig@sbc-85.com>
>>>             *Subject:* Re: 38P70 clock and companions
>>>
>>>             Hi Craig,
>>>
>>>             I tried the MK38P70 board.  It's nice to see a processor
>>>             run after being stored away and forgotten for four
>>>             decades!  My first order of business was to check each
>>>             of the chips I have. Here's my results.
>>>
>>>             Of the labeled ceramic chips, 4 seem to work fine.  2
>>>             were bad.  And one would run, but some of the displayed
>>>             letters were garbled.
>>>
>>>             I have four ceramic chips with no markings. One of them
>>>             was non-functional.  Three displayed HELLO WORLD but
>>>             would not branch into the clock setup.  Perhaps these
>>>             are a different version of the chip that's not fully
>>>             compatible with your program.
>>>
>>>             Of the ones labelled as PACKAGE SAMPLE, 4 worked.  3
>>>             were non-functional, and one was labelled 2732 and I
>>>             didn't test it.
>>>
>>>             I have another couple of chips in a package that I
>>>             didn't retrieve from storage and will test these later.
>>>
>>>             Some questions...
>>>
>>>             Can you give me a listing of the program you provided?
>>>             How did you assemble the program?  Was it hand assembled
>>>             or did you use an assembler?
>>>
>>>             Next I intend to set up an assembler and try writing a
>>>             program.  If I can start with the program you wrote and
>>>             modify/ extend it, that would be helpful.
>>>
>>>             Will
>>>
>>>             On 6/21/2022 9:11 PM, SBC-85 wrote:
>>>
>>>                 Hi will
>>>
>>>                 Yea, I wanted you to be able to get going quickly.
>>>
>>>                 … there is always the kitchen table if your bench
>>>                 isn’t clear. Who could complain about the worlds
>>>                 first microcomputer?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                     On Jun 21, 2022, at 5:39 PM, whalphen
>>>                     <whalphen@gmail.com> <mailto:whalphen@gmail.com>
>>>                     wrote:
>>>
>>>                     ﻿
>>>
>>>                     Hi Craig,
>>>
>>>                     I received your package today.  I was pleasantly
>>>                     surprised to see all that you put in there. 
>>>                     Thank you very much!  I can see that I won't run
>>>                     out of things to play with anytime soon.  Now I
>>>                     need to go clear the stuff off my workbench so I
>>>                     can try out the 38P70 tomorrow!
>>>
>>>                     Will
>>>
>>>                     On 6/17/2022 3:47 PM, craig@sbc-85.com wrote:
>>>
>>>                         Hi Will,
>>>
>>>                         All boxed up and ready to go.  USPS tracking
>>>                         number ----
>>>
>>>                         9405511108033825465675
>>>                         <https://tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfirmAction?tRef=fullpage&tLc=2&text28777=&tLabels=9405511108033825465675>
>>>
>>>                         The STD board works and has been tested at a
>>>                         minimal level. I need to do some more
>>>                         extensive testing with the memory mapping to
>>>                         have a wider combination of standard and
>>>                         auxiliary configurations, but it works with
>>>                         everything I have tried so far.  I really
>>>                         like not having fixed configurations on the
>>>                         memory sockets and being able to use the ZIF
>>>                         for high memory while using a resident
>>>                         monitor in a base EPROM, or moving the ZIF
>>>                         to 0x0000 if I want to work on the resident
>>>                         monitor program and have it easy to pop in
>>>                         and out.  As always, lots of documentation
>>>                         and software to write and I want to test it
>>>                         with EEPROMs but need to write code first. 
>>>                          I also have not even started testing the
>>>                         STD interface so I need to put it in a cage
>>>                         and start adding other boards.
>>>
>>>                         Thanks for the video feedback and
>>>                         encouragement.  I don’t think that I will
>>>                         influence many of those raised on JTAG to
>>>                         disconnect their super-tool and go back to
>>>                         old-school diagnostics, but I hope to do my
>>>                         little part.  I am getting anxious to start
>>>                         getting my intellect 8/80 boards up. Not
>>>                         that every grandmother will want to build an
>>>                         intellect 8, but there is a lot of history
>>>                         there.
>>>
>>>                         Summer has not started here yet.  A bit of
>>>                         flying but not as much as usual for this
>>>                         time of year.  I always have projects at
>>>                         home, so never any time to roam the bars or
>>>                         otherwise cause trouble.  There are already
>>>                         a lot of flying videos so I don’t think I
>>>                         have a lot to contribute there.  What I may
>>>                         do is some geology of the pacific northwest
>>>                         flying videos since we live in a pretty
>>>                         amazing area geology wise and it can be
>>>                         beautiful from the air.  This is an amazing
>>>                         part of the country by any measure, but
>>>                         especially the story about how the pacific
>>>                         northwest came to be.
>>>
>>>                         Best regards,
>>>
>>>                         craig
>>>
>>>                         *From:* whalphen <whalphen@gmail.com>
>>>                         <mailto:whalphen@gmail.com>
>>>                         *Sent:* Friday, June 17, 2022 7:14 AM
>>>                         *To:* craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com
>>>                         *Subject:* Re: 3870 project
>>>
>>>                         Hi Craig.  I was traveling the last few
>>>                         weeks (Michigan to North Carolina to Alabama
>>>                         to Louisiana then returned via the same long
>>>                         route) but I managed to watch the 38P70
>>>                         videos.  Good job!  I keep thinking how
>>>                         valuable your videos are in that they pull
>>>                         together a lot of relevant information from
>>>                         the past and preserve it for those who will
>>>                         be interested in the future.
>>>
>>>                         I got back to Michigan in time for the start
>>>                         of the nice weather and have been spending
>>>                         time getting caught up on things at home.  I
>>>                         just finished re-installing my HF antennas,
>>>                         having removed them for some tree cutting
>>>                         last fall.
>>>
>>>                         I am eager to try out the 38P70 board. So
>>>                         yes, please send it.
>>>
>>>                         Next month things will slow down around here
>>>                         and I'll be looking forward to spending time
>>>                         in my workshop in the cool basement
>>>                         constructing and testing some PCBs.  The
>>>                         last several years I've mostly done RF
>>>                         design and construction, gradually moving
>>>                         from analog designs to more digital signal
>>>                         processing.  But much of that is on hold now
>>>                         as the digital processors are all out of
>>>                         stock.  So the 38P70 will be a nice shift of
>>>                         focus.
>>>
>>>                         What's the status of your STD bus 8085
>>>                         processor board?  I'm thinking I would like
>>>                         to build one of those at some point.
>>>
>>>                         I hope you are finding time to get out and
>>>                         enjoy the summer.  Have you been doing any
>>>                         flying?  Do you have any flying videos posted?
>>>
>>>                         Will
>>>
>>>                         On 6/16/2022 9:33 PM,
>>>                         craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com wrote:
>>>
>>>                             Hi Will,
>>>
>>>                             I am just checking back to see if you
>>>                             are ready for your 38P70 board.  I have
>>>                             the last of the components and can send
>>>                             it any time.  It is still running the
>>>                             original clock code, someone is pushing
>>>                             me to get the STD-85 board done and
>>>                             tested so I haven’t gotten back to the
>>>                             this code.  I have your address from
>>>                             your letter enclosed with the items you
>>>                             sent me.  Let me know if you would like
>>>                             any of my other bare boards.
>>>
>>>                             It keeps mediocre time, the crystal I
>>>                             have runs about a minute ahead every few
>>>                             weeks.  Other than that, it is a joy to
>>>                             have here on my desk giving me a little
>>>                             beep every minute.  Thanks again for
>>>                             getting me into this project.
>>>
>>>                             I think in the next version of this
>>>                             board I would like to have five little
>>>                             pushbuttons arranged
>>>                             center,up,down,left,right… I am thinking
>>>                             there must be some sort of mindless game
>>>                             that could be played with the 16 digits
>>>                             of the display.
>>>
>>>                             Best regards
>>>
>>>                             Craig
>>>
>>>                             *From:* craig Andrews
>>>                             <craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com>
>>>                             <mailto:craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com>
>>>                             *Sent:* Friday, May 06, 2022 7:28 PM
>>>                             *To:* Will Halphen <whalphen@gmail.com>
>>>                             <mailto:whalphen@gmail.com>
>>>                             *Subject:* Re: 3870 project
>>>
>>>                             Thanks for the update.  Just let me know
>>>                             when you are ready for the board. I ran
>>>                             out of supervisory IC and the rotary
>>>                             switches which will be here in 3 or 4
>>>                             days.  Also the real time clock which I
>>>                             expect to show up sometime this week too.
>>>
>>>                             Regards
>>>
>>>                             Craig
>>>
>>>                             <image001.jpg>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                 On May 6, 2022, at 2:18 PM, Will
>>>                                 Halphen <whalphen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>                                 ﻿
>>>
>>>                                 Hi Craig,
>>>
>>>                                 I think it’s all correct to the
>>>                                 extent I’m aware of the history –
>>>                                 which isn’t much.  I sent notes to
>>>                                 some of my old Mostek buddies to
>>>                                 take a look and asked for any
>>>                                 additional information they may be
>>>                                 able to provide.  I watched the rest
>>>                                 of the videos and look forward to
>>>                                 seeing the working hardware.  Sorry
>>>                                 to hear that one of the chips was
>>>                                 bad.  But’s that’s to be expected
>>>                                 for old components.  I have more of
>>>                                 the chips and can send you some if
>>>                                 needed.  My fear was that all of
>>>                                 them would be bad.  I’m glad that’s
>>>                                 not the case.
>>>
>>>                                 I’ll be leaving next week to move my
>>>                                 daughter to North Carolina – she
>>>                                 just graduated from University of
>>>                                 Michigan Engineering and will be
>>>                                 working in Raleigh-Durham area. 
>>>                                 After that I will be going to my
>>>                                 house in Louisiana for 2-3 weeks,
>>>                                 but will be accessible via email.
>>>
>>>                                 I hope you have a nice time away for
>>>                                 the summer!
>>>
>>>                                 Will
>>>
>>>                                 *From:* craig Andrews
>>>                                 [mailto:craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com
>>>                                 <mailto:craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com>]
>>>                                 *Sent:* Friday, May 06, 2022 1:55 PM
>>>                                 *To:* Will Halphen <whalphen@gmail.com>
>>>                                 *Subject:* Re: 3870 project
>>>
>>>                                 Hi Will,
>>>
>>>                                 Thanks for the feedback on the
>>>                                 video.  I hope I got most of the
>>>                                 history of the 3870 correct, not
>>>                                 just yours but Fairchild/Mostek
>>>                                 3850/3870 in general.
>>>
>>>                                 I still have one more F8 video that
>>>                                 is already recorded that needs
>>>                                 editing and then I will be caught
>>>                                 up.  It is a bring up of the
>>>                                 hardware.  I still some testing and
>>>                                 have lots of software to write, but
>>>                                 the basic boards seem to work fine.
>>>                                  Since you can program 2716s I can
>>>                                 just send you software updates as I
>>>                                 go along and figure out how to do
>>>                                 things on the F8.  I haven’t talked
>>>                                 to the RTC yet and I have serial out
>>>                                 but haven’t done serial input.
>>>                                  Right now my F8 assembly is pretty
>>>                                 amateurish but (I hope) getting better.
>>>
>>>                                 Of the two 3870s you sent I randomly
>>>                                 picked one to put in the first board
>>>                                 after I had completed rudimentary
>>>                                 checks and taken all preliminary
>>>                                 precautions.  The board fired up
>>>                                 right away and successfully ran my
>>>                                 test code.  Later I assembled your
>>>                                 board and put in the second
>>>                                 processor which turned out to be non
>>>                                 functional.  I am really glad that I
>>>                                 randomly picked the functional
>>>                                 processor first, because I would
>>>                                 have been extremely hesitant to plug
>>>                                 in the second processor if the first
>>>                                 one hadn’t worked.  A month or so I
>>>                                 bought two more but they are coming
>>>                                 from Portugal I think so will be in
>>>                                 shipping for weeks.
>>>
>>>                                 I certainly will be making another
>>>                                 version of this board to refine some
>>>                                 things to make the software easier.
>>>                                  Mostly moving pins.  But right now
>>>                                 I do not have another pcb order
>>>                                 planned and I hope to be away much
>>>                                 of the summer, so the next round may
>>>                                 not be for a few months.
>>>
>>>                                 If you or your Mostek friends have
>>>                                 any more history to add for the
>>>                                 videos, it would be appreciated.
>>>
>>>                                 Thanks again for getting me started
>>>                                 on this project
>>>
>>>                                 Regards
>>>
>>>                                 Craig
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                     On May 5, 2022, at 9:01 PM, Will
>>>                                     Halphen <whalphen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>                                     ﻿
>>>
>>>                                     I just watched the first of your
>>>                                     F8 videos.  Excellent job!  The
>>>                                     historical background was
>>>                                     great.  I really enjoyed it and
>>>                                     look forward to watching the
>>>                                     rest of the videos.  I also
>>>                                     can’t wait to let my old Mostek
>>>                                     buddies know about this project.
>>>
>>>                                     Thanks.
>>>
>>>                                     Will
>>>
>>>                                     *From:*
>>>                                     craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com
>>>                                     [mailto:craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com
>>>                                     <mailto:craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com>]
>>>
>>>                                     *Sent:* Tuesday, May 03, 2022
>>>                                     9:26 PM
>>>                                     *To:* 'Will Halphen'
>>>                                     <whalphen@gmail.com>
>>>                                     *Subject:* RE: 3870 project
>>>
>>>                                     Hi Will,
>>>
>>>                                     I wanted to also check if you
>>>                                     still had a 38P70, hopefully I
>>>                                     will have a board to send you
>>>                                     soon.  I will populate
>>>                                     everything else on the board and
>>>                                     include an eprom so you will
>>>                                     just need to plug in a 38P70.
>>>
>>>                                     How are your F8 programming skills?
>>>
>>>                                     Regards
>>>
>>>                                     Craig
>>>
>>>                                     *From:* Will Halphen
>>>                                     <whalphen@gmail.com>
>>>                                     *Sent:* Wednesday, April 20,
>>>                                     2022 4:29 PM
>>>                                     *To:* craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com
>>>                                     *Subject:* RE: 3870 project
>>>
>>>                                     Hi Craig.
>>>
>>>                                     Yes, I can program 2716 EPROMS
>>>                                     and I have a boatload of them.
>>>
>>>                                     I’m looking forward to the videos!
>>>
>>>                                     Lately I’ve been working on a
>>>                                     radio receiver design.  But it
>>>                                     would be good to shift focus to
>>>                                     a digital project for a while.
>>>
>>>                                     Regards.
>>>
>>>                                     Will
>>>
>>>                                     *From:*
>>>                                     craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com
>>>                                     [mailto:craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com
>>>                                     <mailto:craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com>]
>>>
>>>                                     *Sent:* Wednesday, April 20,
>>>                                     2022 7:25 PM
>>>                                     *To:* 'Will Halphen'
>>>                                     <whalphen@gmail.com>
>>>                                     *Subject:* RE: 3870 project
>>>
>>>                                     Hi Will,
>>>
>>>                                     I hope all is going well on your
>>>                                     end.
>>>
>>>                                     Are you able to program 2716 EPROMS?
>>>
>>>                                     Taxes are done, wife has mostly
>>>                                     healed so I am getting back to
>>>                                     working the 38P70 project.  I
>>>                                     need to finish up and post the
>>>                                     project introduction video, I
>>>                                     will set that for this week’s
>>>                                     goal.    Since it will use a
>>>                                     2716, I wanted to make sure that
>>>                                     you can program them.  I have
>>>                                     settled on a real time clock
>>>                                     with some 15 segment intelligent
>>>                                     displays (DL2416), a serial
>>>                                     port, a RTC chip, switch input,
>>>                                     LED, speaker output.
>>>
>>>                                     Best regards
>>>
>>>                                     Craig
>>>
>>>                                     *From:* Will Halphen
>>>                                     <whalphen@gmail.com>
>>>                                     *Sent:* Saturday, February 19,
>>>                                     2022 8:54 AM
>>>                                     *To:* 'craig Andrews'
>>>                                     <craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com>
>>>                                     *Subject:* RE: 3870 project
>>>
>>>                                     Hello Craig,
>>>
>>>                                     Glad you received the package
>>>                                     ok.  I’ve seen photos of both
>>>                                     styles of those 38p70 chips in
>>>                                     commercial products.  So I don’t
>>>                                     know if they came out at the
>>>                                     same time or if one came after
>>>                                     the other.  The Mostek
>>>                                     documentation does state that
>>>                                     the 3874 was renumbered to
>>>                                     38p70.  My guess is that the
>>>                                     3874 came out first and that the
>>>                                     cerdip package of the 38p70
>>>                                     became more common in the
>>>                                     industry, so the 3874 got
>>>                                     dropped.  My friends were
>>>                                     involved in manufacturing and
>>>                                     testing of chips.  (I think it
>>>                                     was typical that new engineers
>>>                                     were put in testing roles.) So
>>>                                     they probably sent me whatever
>>>                                     was surplus at the time.  I have
>>>                                     lots of Mostek chips that are
>>>                                     not labeled but were surplus
>>>                                     after the chips were tested. 
>>>                                     For example, I have a set of
>>>                                     unlabeled 8K rams in a box with
>>>                                     a note from my friend stating
>>>                                     that they were successfully
>>>                                     tested for 3000 hours at 125
>>>                                     degrees.  I have another Mostek
>>>                                     z80 processor with the lid held
>>>                                     on by scotch tape.  I don’t know
>>>                                     the background on the 38p70
>>>                                     chips.  I have no guarantee that
>>>                                     all of these chips will work. 
>>>                                     That’s why I sent you four
>>>                                     38p70s. Hopefully all are good.
>>>                                     But, in case you find a bad one,
>>>                                     there are spares.
>>>
>>>                                     I have a few unmarked (or hand
>>>                                     labeled) piggyback processors
>>>                                     that were clearly used for
>>>                                     testing.  I recall expressing
>>>                                     that I was interested in that
>>>                                     chip, so I was sent a couple of
>>>                                     tubes of the labeled chips.
>>>                                     That’s where yours came from. 
>>>                                     So I suspect these were likely
>>>                                     engineering samples.
>>>
>>>                                     L J Sevin was one of the
>>>                                     founders of Mostek.  He was also
>>>                                     a native of my home town, Baton
>>>                                     Rouge, and graduated from LSU
>>>                                     Electrical Engineering. That’s
>>>                                     where I went to school.  So
>>>                                     Mostek regularly recruited from
>>>                                     LSU and many of many classmates
>>>                                     (and I) were able to visit
>>>                                     Mostek and received job offers. 
>>>                                     I was already having a great
>>>                                     time working part time at Dow
>>>                                     Chemical so I didn’t accept the
>>>                                     offer from Mostek, but a number
>>>                                     of classmates did.
>>>
>>>                                     I have no other documentation
>>>                                     for the PLS-441.  I spent some
>>>                                     time searching the internet and
>>>                                     found nothing.  Herb Johnson
>>>                                     sent me the pinout document.  I
>>>                                     don’t think it’s necessary to
>>>                                     recreate a schematic in order to
>>>                                     run the board.  The pinout
>>>                                     should give enough information
>>>                                     to determine how to connect to
>>>                                     it.  And I’m guessing that Intel
>>>                                     application information can be
>>>                                     found for the 4040 chipset
>>>                                     showing the typical
>>>                                     interconnections and how to use
>>>                                     it.  Of course, be wary of the
>>>                                     40 year old capacitors.
>>>
>>>                                     This morning I watched your
>>>                                     latest video on the early Intel
>>>                                     development systems. Nice
>>>                                     video!  It brought back lots of
>>>                                     memories.  When I went fulltime
>>>                                     at Dow, they let me buy the
>>>                                     Intellec Series II MDS model 225
>>>                                     with a memory expansion and an
>>>                                     additional pair of floppy
>>>                                     drives.  It was better than any
>>>                                     development system I had used in
>>>                                     school and better than the older
>>>                                     Intellec and S100 systems used
>>>                                     in the labs at Dow.  And the
>>>                                     floppy drives sure beat the
>>>                                     paper tape the other systems
>>>                                     were using.  A coworker and I
>>>                                     stayed late one evening and ran
>>>                                     a twisted pair thru the attics
>>>                                     and cable trays across the
>>>                                     facilities and connected it to
>>>                                     the PDP-11 that was used as the
>>>                                     main time share system for R&D. 
>>>                                     Also connected a 300 baud
>>>                                     modem.  So I had, by far, the
>>>                                     best development system/
>>>                                     terminal in the facilities.  The
>>>                                     MDS came with a complete set of
>>>                                     schematics and firmware
>>>                                     listing.  So I got to know that
>>>                                     system very well.  I even took
>>>                                     out the original green CRT (the
>>>                                     tube itself) and replaced it
>>>                                     with an amber tube.  I did lots
>>>                                     of fun development using
>>>                                     Assembler and PL/M and could
>>>                                     even connect via modem from
>>>                                     home.  (My boss had never heard
>>>                                     of the concept of doing software
>>>                                     work from home with a remote
>>>                                     terminal and at first objected –
>>>                                     but later relented.)
>>>
>>>                                     We setup a second development
>>>                                     system next to mine (I think it
>>>                                     was a WinSystems unit which also
>>>                                     used the same Intel bus).  We
>>>                                     installed processor emulators in
>>>                                     both systems and were able to
>>>                                     develop some dual processor
>>>                                     instruments, with each
>>>                                     development system running the
>>>                                     emulator for one processor.  At
>>>                                     the time Intel produced the
>>>                                     Universal Peripheral Interface,
>>>                                     8741. It was an MCS-48 family
>>>                                     processor setup for use as a
>>>                                     slave.  Using that chip we
>>>                                     designed smart STD peripheral
>>>                                     cards for our instrument
>>>                                     systems.  For example, an 8741
>>>                                     was used to offload the user
>>>                                     interface from the main processor.
>>>
>>>                                     I still can’t believe I was paid
>>>                                     to have so much fun.
>>>
>>>                                     I hope you enjoy the stuff I
>>>                                     sent. And keep the magic smoke
>>>                                     inside the chips!
>>>
>>>                                     Will
>>>
>>>                                     *From:* craig Andrews
>>>                                     [mailto:craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com
>>>                                     <mailto:craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com>]
>>>
>>>                                     *Sent:* Friday, February 18,
>>>                                     2022 11:22 PM
>>>                                     *To:* Will Halphen
>>>                                     <whalphen@gmail.com>
>>>                                     *Subject:* Re: 3870 project
>>>
>>>                                     Hi Will,
>>>
>>>                                     Received the boards and chips
>>>                                     today.  The 38p70s should make
>>>                                     an interesting video.
>>>
>>>                                     So your friends sent you both
>>>                                     the prototypes and finished
>>>                                     chips at the same time
>>>
>>>                                     Is there a schematic anywhere
>>>                                     for the pls 441 that you know
>>>                                     of? or should I create a schematic.
>>>
>>>                                     I forgot to mention when you
>>>                                     sent the scanned 881 schematic
>>>                                     that on your board they did not
>>>                                     have that odd cap to the tank
>>>                                     circuit on the 8225 clock.  And
>>>                                     they had a jumper to eliminate
>>>                                     the trim cap on the crystal
>>>                                     input (which is funny since the
>>>                                     user could just take the trim
>>>                                     cap out and put jumper in its pads)
>>>
>>>                                     Thanks again, I will keep you
>>>                                     updated
>>>
>>>                                     Best regards
>>>
>>>                                     Craig
>>>
>>>                                         On Feb 17, 2022, at 4:28 PM,
>>>                                         Will Halphen
>>>                                         <whalphen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>                                         ﻿
>>>
>>>                                         Interesting that you enjoy
>>>                                         flying. I’ve always had a
>>>                                         desire to learn to fly, but
>>>                                         never pursued the interest.
>>>                                          It must be a very enjoyable
>>>                                         activity!
>>>
>>>                                         I’ve got several design
>>>                                         projects underway at the
>>>                                         moment.  Each project goes
>>>                                         on hold once I determine the
>>>                                         parts I need to order.  When
>>>                                         I have order lists from
>>>                                         several projects I’ll place
>>>                                         the orders for the parts. 
>>>                                         Similarly, I wait and order
>>>                                         PCBs for several projects at
>>>                                         a time.  So my projects can
>>>                                         take a long time, but I’m
>>>                                         regularly completing some.
>>>                                         Anyway, today I was working
>>>                                         on a hexadecimal display
>>>                                         module.  I have a tube full
>>>                                         of seven segment LED
>>>                                         displays that someone gave
>>>                                         me at the local amateur
>>>                                         radio swap meet.  The tough
>>>                                         thing is getting HEX
>>>                                         decoders for seven segment
>>>                                         displays.  The only chip I
>>>                                         know of is the MC14495 and
>>>                                         it seems to no longer be
>>>                                         available in North America –
>>>                                         except from  a few
>>>                                         scalpers.  So I’m proceeding
>>>                                         with a design using an
>>>                                         ATTINY processor feeding the
>>>                                         display characters via shift
>>>                                         registers with latches.  One
>>>                                         of the nice things about it
>>>                                         is the processor can be
>>>                                         setup to handle a variety of
>>>                                         interfaces – even the STD
>>>                                         bus.  The vintage tech is
>>>                                         nice and familiar.  But the
>>>                                         modern stuff is pretty
>>>                                         flexible.  This is an
>>>                                         amazing time to enjoy
>>>                                         electronic design!
>>>                                         Incredibly capable devices,
>>>                                         cheap components, powerful
>>>                                         tools, and easy made to
>>>                                         order PCBs and 3D printed
>>>                                         items.  (However, I do have
>>>                                         a few projects on hold
>>>                                         because of part shortages
>>>                                         lately.)
>>>
>>>                                         Will
>>>
>>>                                         *From:*
>>>                                         craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com
>>>                                         [mailto:craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com
>>>                                         <mailto:craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com>]
>>>
>>>                                         *Sent:* Wednesday, February
>>>                                         16, 2022 3:19 PM
>>>                                         *To:* 'Will Halphen'
>>>                                         <whalphen@gmail.com>
>>>                                         *Subject:* 3870 project
>>>
>>>                                         Hi Will,
>>>
>>>                                         Regarding the bus
>>>                                         contention, I am more
>>>                                         worried about outputting
>>>                                         high on the port while held
>>>                                         low from the driving IC.  A
>>>                                         1n270 forward biased towards
>>>                                         the driving chip will take
>>>                                         care of that….. the driving
>>>                                         chip can pull the port low
>>>                                         as needed, but if the port
>>>                                         is pulling the line low it
>>>                                         cannot sink from the driving
>>>                                         chip. The forward drop of
>>>                                         the 1n270 is small enough to
>>>                                         keep the logic low below the
>>>                                         threshold.  if I use a
>>>                                         resistor for protection I
>>>                                         would have trouble hitting
>>>                                         the 0.7V logic low
>>>                                         threshold.  with the input
>>>                                         pin properly set to logic 1
>>>                                         and the driving TTL held at
>>>                                         zero the drop across your
>>>                                         3.3K would be 1.75V under
>>>                                         best case and more likely
>>>                                         2.2V.  so when reading the
>>>                                         3870 it would always be a
>>>                                         logic 1.
>>>
>>>                                         You spend your nice days
>>>                                         with a fly rod, I spend nice
>>>                                         days flying… so this is a
>>>                                         gloomy day hobby for both of
>>>                                         us. I live near Portland so
>>>                                         6 months of gloomy is our
>>>                                         trademark.
>>>
>>>                                         I see, it is the mostek SIO
>>>                                         documentation you need, so
>>>                                         we are in the same boat. I
>>>                                         have cut sheets for the
>>>                                         winsystems 7314 and user’s
>>>                                         manual for the versalogic
>>>                                         but I haven’t gotten around
>>>                                         to seeing if they are all
>>>                                         the same.
>>>
>>>                                         What we need is the 7301 of
>>>                                         which I have the manual but
>>>                                         no board.
>>>
>>>                                         Anchor has 8251As for a few
>>>                                         of dollars I think.
>>>
>>>                                         As for your modern hybrid
>>>                                         STD, there is a fellow in
>>>                                         Alaska that is taking the
>>>                                         SBC-85 design and blending
>>>                                         it with a PIC or ardunio or
>>>                                         some other such thing. For
>>>                                         me, the vintage brings back
>>>                                         better memories than my time
>>>                                         spent with modern things, so
>>>                                         I prefer to stick with
>>>                                         vintage.  I do STM32 things
>>>                                         occasionally, but only on an
>>>                                         “as needed” basis.
>>>
>>>                                         The patient is generally
>>>                                         well mannered and good
>>>                                         natured and after 40 years
>>>                                         of living with me she is
>>>                                         well deserving of a little
>>>                                         TLC.  (At least that is what
>>>                                         she is telling me :).
>>>
>>>                                         Best regards,
>>>
>>>                                         craig
>>>
>>>                                         *From:* Will Halphen
>>>                                         <whalphen@gmail.com>
>>>                                         *Sent:* Wednesday, February
>>>                                         16, 2022 10:55 AM
>>>                                         *To:* 'craig Andrews'
>>>                                         <craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com>
>>>                                         *Subject:* RE: PLS-881
>>>
>>>                                         Regarding input protection,
>>>                                         it may be helpful to put
>>>                                         series resistors to limit
>>>                                         the current in the event
>>>                                         that you output low to a
>>>                                         high input.  The datasheet
>>>                                         indicates that these pins
>>>                                         can handle 1.6 mA, so that
>>>                                         would be a 3.3K resistor. 
>>>                                         If the resistors cause any
>>>                                         problems, you can replace
>>>                                         them with jumpers.
>>>
>>>                                         Yes, do some SBC-85 work
>>>                                         first.  I don’t see a need
>>>                                         for any rush on any of
>>>                                         this.  I live in Michigan,
>>>                                         and the winter is long
>>>                                         here.  So I get lots of time
>>>                                         to work on this stuff at
>>>                                         this time of year.  But once
>>>                                         spring comes along (in a few
>>>                                         months), I’ll be spending
>>>                                         more time on the rivers with
>>>                                         a fly rod.
>>>
>>>                                         I hope all goes well with
>>>                                         your patient.  Good luck
>>>                                         with your nursing duties.
>>>
>>>                                         As for the serial board, I
>>>                                         would like to bring up one
>>>                                         of my STD Z80 boards and
>>>                                         want to use a serial port. 
>>>                                         The only serial board I have
>>>                                         is the Mostek MDX-SIO.  And
>>>                                         that’s the only one of my
>>>                                         Mostek boards missing the
>>>                                         documentation.  The prolog
>>>                                         7314 is probably the same as
>>>                                         the Versalogic 7314 which
>>>                                         has documentation and a
>>>                                         schematic available online.
>>>                                          But it’s a bit overkill for
>>>                                         what I want.  I’m thinking
>>>                                         that I will first design an
>>>                                         STD prototype card with I/O
>>>                                         decoders in place. That
>>>                                         would be a handy design to
>>>                                         share with others.  Then
>>>                                         I’ll clone the design,
>>>                                         remove the prototype area,
>>>                                         and put in a uart with one
>>>                                         serial port.  I’ll include a
>>>                                         uart to usb circuit on board
>>>                                         so I can just plug it into a
>>>                                         notebook computer as the
>>>                                         terminal.  Now I have to
>>>                                         find a uart chip that is
>>>                                         readily available and not
>>>                                         too costly.  I’m not
>>>                                         familiar with what’s in
>>>                                         production these days. I
>>>                                         have some old 8251 chips,
>>>                                         and one company still makes
>>>                                         them, but the cost is high. 
>>>                                         Let me think on this a
>>>                                         while.  If I decide I want a
>>>                                         prebuilt one, I may take you
>>>                                         up on your offer of the 7314.
>>>
>>>                                         (It’s interesting how I keep
>>>                                         coming up with modern
>>>                                         solutions for these old
>>>                                         challenges.  I keep thinking
>>>                                         that I could do the whole
>>>                                         serial IO design with just a
>>>                                         single $3 PIC
>>>                                         microcontroller.  Then I
>>>                                         would have SPI and I2C, as
>>>                                         well.  Could that be a
>>>                                         thing?  An 8085 STD card
>>>                                         with a bunch of PIC
>>>                                         microcontrollers on STD
>>>                                         cards as peripheral
>>>                                         controllers. It would be
>>>                                         pretty easy and could still
>>>                                         run 8085 code and CPM.)
>>>
>>>                                         Will
>>>
>>>                                         *From:* craig Andrews
>>>                                         [mailto:craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com
>>>                                         <mailto:craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com>]
>>>
>>>                                         *Sent:* Wednesday, February
>>>                                         16, 2022 12:41 PM
>>>                                         *To:* Will Halphen
>>>                                         <whalphen@gmail.com>
>>>                                         *Subject:* Re: PLS-881
>>>
>>>                                         Hi Will,
>>>
>>>                                         Thanks for the update
>>>
>>>                                         Yes, I noticed the serial
>>>                                         version, it looks like the
>>>                                         -73 version has a full UART
>>>                                         and baud rate generator
>>>                                         inside.  I read an AP note
>>>                                         just a day or so ago that
>>>                                         was dedicated to nested
>>>                                         calls and I don’t think that
>>>                                         will become a limiting
>>>                                         factor.  As I read it, your
>>>                                         version of the chips has the
>>>                                         executable RAM in addition
>>>                                         to the scratchpad.. so that
>>>                                         is nice.
>>>
>>>                                         if I am reading everything
>>>                                         right, your chips have light
>>>                                         pull ups on the outputs (6k
>>>                                         as I remember).  I am
>>>                                         wondering if I should
>>>                                         protect devices driving the
>>>                                         input pin from contention
>>>                                         since I am sure to mess up
>>>                                         and output those as low bits
>>>                                         sooner or later.  I guess I
>>>                                         could drive the input pins
>>>                                         with open collector, at
>>>                                         first blush that looks like
>>>                                         it would solve the problem.
>>>                                          Or I could put in a signal
>>>                                         diode, I need to see what
>>>                                         fits better after I start
>>>                                         assigning pins.
>>>
>>>                                         I will ruminate on the
>>>                                         design a but… I may slip the
>>>                                         STD SBC-85 board in first.
>>>
>>>                                         The Mrs is having footwork
>>>                                         done so she will be in
>>>                                         dry-dock for several weeks
>>>                                         and I will be her
>>>                                         manservant—so the next
>>>                                         couple of weeks will be full
>>>                                         of interruptions whenever
>>>                                         she rings her little call
>>>                                         bell.  Things should free up
>>>                                         in a few weeks, unless one
>>>                                         of us kills the other I suppose.
>>>
>>>                                         Did I see you were looking
>>>                                         for a Mostek SIO? I am
>>>                                         pretty sure that I have one,
>>>                                         but never found
>>>                                         documentation and I haven’t
>>>                                         bothered reverse capturing.
>>>                                           If I have one and you want
>>>                                         it, it’s yours.  Or I have a
>>>                                         prolog 7314 UART if you
>>>                                         prefer but, again, I don’t
>>>                                         think it has a schematic and
>>>                                         haven’t gotten around to
>>>                                         capturing one.
>>>
>>>                                         Best Regards
>>>
>>>                                         Craig
>>>
>>>                                             On Feb 16, 2022, at 9:01
>>>                                             AM, Will Halphen
>>>                                             <whalphen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>                                             ﻿
>>>
>>>                                             Craig,
>>>
>>>                                             I’m ok with you
>>>                                             mentioning my name on
>>>                                             your videos.  And OK
>>>                                             with you mentioning that
>>>                                             I obtained the chips
>>>                                             from some college
>>>                                             buddies who worked at
>>>                                             Mostek.  These were
>>>                                             commercially available
>>>                                             chips. I’ve been reading
>>>                                             about the MK38P70. It
>>>                                             has some interesting
>>>                                             features.  It has no
>>>                                             stack, but it has a
>>>                                             single level buffer of
>>>                                             the program counter so a
>>>                                             subroutine can be
>>>                                             called.  However, if you
>>>                                             want to nest
>>>                                             subroutines, you have to
>>>                                             create and maintain a
>>>                                             stack. This is made
>>>                                             easier because of the
>>>                                             scratchpad RAM which is
>>>                                             accessible in a single
>>>                                             processor cycle.  This
>>>                                             F8 guide has a lot of
>>>                                             helpful information and
>>>                                             suggestions for using
>>>                                             this processor.
>>>                                             http://www.bitsavers.org/components/fairchild/f8/67095664_F8_Guide_To_Programming_1976.pdf
>>>
>>>                                             There was another
>>>                                             version of this chip
>>>                                             that included a serial
>>>                                             port.  I checked my
>>>                                             collection and I think I
>>>                                             have one of those.  But
>>>                                             it has no printed
>>>                                             markings, only a hand
>>>                                             written part number in
>>>                                             pencil.  So it was
>>>                                             likely a chip used for
>>>                                             testing purposes at Mostek.
>>>
>>>                                             This LLL BASIC code
>>>                                             seems to be setup for
>>>                                             use with the CPM BIOS. 
>>>                                             It has addresses defined
>>>                                             for several drivers,
>>>                                             such as console in and
>>>                                             console out.  Of course,
>>>                                             if you don’t want to use
>>>                                             it with CPM, the ROM
>>>                                             just needs to have
>>>                                             drivers for the console
>>>                                             and these addresses need
>>>                                             to be changed to the
>>>                                             addresses of the drivers
>>>                                             in the ROM. LLL BASIC
>>>                                             should work with only
>>>                                             the console in and
>>>                                             console out drivers.  So
>>>                                             redefine the driver
>>>                                             addresses in the code,
>>>                                             update the EQU
>>>                                             statements to define the
>>>                                             RAM location, assemble
>>>                                             it and load it to
>>>                                             EPROMs, and it should
>>>                                             run.  After that you can
>>>                                             modify the code, add
>>>                                             your own keywords and
>>>                                             functions, and have your
>>>                                             own custom version of BASIC.
>>>
>>>                                             The tracking number for
>>>                                             your package is
>>>                                             1Z1EE6650348537027
>>>                                             (UPS).  No need to
>>>                                             reimburse me for the
>>>                                             shipping.  I may call on
>>>                                             you someday for some
>>>                                             parts or assistance. 
>>>                                             I’m just glad to have
>>>                                             these parts go to
>>>                                             someone who can do
>>>                                             something with them –
>>>                                             other than grind them up
>>>                                             for gold – and
>>>                                             potentially help others
>>>                                             to learn about the
>>>                                             evolution of
>>>                                             microprocessors.
>>>
>>>                                             Will
>>>
>>>                                             *From:*
>>>                                             craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com
>>>                                             [mailto:craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com
>>>                                             <mailto:craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com>]
>>>
>>>                                             *Sent:* Tuesday,
>>>                                             February 15, 2022 9:06 PM
>>>                                             *To:* 'Will Halphen'
>>>                                             <whalphen@gmail.com>
>>>                                             *Subject:* RE: PLS-881
>>>
>>>                                             Thank you Will, again
>>>                                             this is very much
>>>                                             appreciated and let me
>>>                                             know how I can pay back
>>>                                             your generosity. It
>>>                                             seems at least I should
>>>                                             pay for shipping or send
>>>                                             you something I have
>>>                                             that you would like in
>>>                                             return.  Think STD or
>>>                                             Multibus and I probably
>>>                                             have something you could
>>>                                             use.
>>>
>>>                                             I appreciate the scans
>>>                                             of the schematics and
>>>                                             documentation, I will go
>>>                                             through them this
>>>                                             evening.  I have been
>>>                                             porting my confidence
>>>                                             test over to the 881 and
>>>                                             stopped to make some
>>>                                             improvements, so I have
>>>                                             not gotten to looking
>>>                                             further at the LLL basic
>>>                                             project.
>>>
>>>                                             As for the MK38P70 I
>>>                                             think I am settling in
>>>                                             to a system concept for
>>>                                             a first go around and,
>>>                                             as so often is the case,
>>>                                             I wound with a clock.
>>>
>>>                                             Rather than the TIL311
>>>                                             hex displays, I am now
>>>                                             thinking of using
>>>                                             DL2416s.  Like the TIL,
>>>                                             they offer aesthetics
>>>                                             matching the time
>>>                                             period, but they provide
>>>                                             the full alphanumeric
>>>                                             set so in addition to a
>>>                                             clock it can also be set
>>>                                             up as a scrolling text
>>>                                             display.  I am thinking
>>>                                             of 16 or 20 digits (4 or
>>>                                             5 displays).  4 displays
>>>                                             will fit on the 100mm
>>>                                             square $1 board but
>>>                                             having 5 displays and up
>>>                                             to a 5” wide $2 board
>>>                                             will not break the bank.
>>>
>>>                                             The MC146818 real time
>>>                                             clock came out in the
>>>                                             early 80s, so I planning
>>>                                             to include it on the board.
>>>
>>>                                             A few switches with left
>>>                                             over input lines; and,
>>>
>>>                                             A serial port.  I would
>>>                                             really like to use a
>>>                                             MAX232 but it didn’t
>>>                                             come along until well
>>>                                             later so that leaves me
>>>                                             with either 5V signal or
>>>                                             using the immortal
>>>                                             1488/1489 set and
>>>                                             supplying +/- 12V.
>>>                                               Sometimes I bend the
>>>                                             rules for convenience so
>>>                                             the MAX232 may win out
>>>                                             this time since nothing
>>>                                             else requires the
>>>                                             bipolar 12V.
>>>
>>>                                             Just a barrel connector
>>>                                             for power in if I stick
>>>                                             with pure 5V.  the
>>>                                             DL2416s will pull more
>>>                                             than their share of current.
>>>
>>>                                             I will do an
>>>                                             introduction video to
>>>                                             gauge the level of
>>>                                             interest for sharing the
>>>                                             project, the MK38P70 is
>>>                                             a unique enough platform
>>>                                             to draw some interest.
>>>                                             Since the MK38P70 is a
>>>                                             gift from you and you
>>>                                             are the reason behind
>>>                                             the project, with your
>>>                                             permission I would like
>>>                                             to give some background
>>>                                             on where the chips came
>>>                                             from. Please let me know
>>>                                             what I can share…. Or I
>>>                                             can just say “my new
>>>                                             buddy Will sent me an
>>>                                             idea and some chips…”
>>>
>>>                                             Best regards
>>>
>>>                                             Craig
>>>
>>>                                             *From:* Will Halphen
>>>                                             <whalphen@gmail.com>
>>>                                             *Sent:* Tuesday,
>>>                                             February 15, 2022 2:07 PM
>>>                                             *To:* 'craig Andrews'
>>>                                             <craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com>
>>>                                             *Subject:* PLS-881
>>>
>>>                                             Craig,
>>>
>>>                                             I’m sending you a
>>>                                             package with the Prolog
>>>                                             PLS-881 and a PLS-441. 
>>>                                             I also included a few of
>>>                                             the MK38P70 chips.  I
>>>                                             opened the PLS-881
>>>                                             package and scanned the
>>>                                             docs.  They are
>>>                                             attached.  You can
>>>                                             validate your reverse
>>>                                             engineering schematic. 
>>>                                             Also attached is the
>>>                                             specification doc for
>>>                                             the PLS-441.  This is
>>>                                             the only technical
>>>                                             documentation I’ve been
>>>                                             able to find on it.
>>>
>>>                                             Regards.
>>>
>>>                                             Will
>>>
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    <p>Sorry Craig.  I don't.  I never ventured into the 6800 space.</p>
    <p>Will<br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/7/2023 11:49 PM, SBC-85 wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Hi Will, </div>
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      <div dir="ltr">You wouldn’t happen to have the schematic or any
        documentation for one of these Pro-Log PLS 868. 6800 card would
        you?</div>
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        <blockquote type="cite">On Mar 6, 2023, at 10:47 AM, whalphen
          <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:whalphen@gmail.com">&lt;whalphen@gmail.com&gt;</a> wrote:<br>
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          <p>I saw your video on the card guides and cooling plenum. 
            Nice job!  I already have a couple of backplanes and I have
            card guides.  So won't need more.</p>
          <p>I hope things are going well for you.  Do you have any fun
            projects underway?  <br>
          </p>
          <p>Here's an update on the projects I'm currently working on. 
            (Several more in the queue, though.)  <br>
          </p>
          <p>My EPROM programmer is progressing well.  It will have two
            PCBs, stacked.  The first one is the power supply and
            controller board.  It's got multiple switching converters to
            produce various voltage levels.  The first PCB was made and
            is now being tested.  The power converters all work.  I
            opted to put an Arduino Pro Mini on board as the
            microcontroller -- because it's cheap and readily
            available.  I only had 3.3 volt versions and expect some 5
            volt versions to arrive this week.  Then I'll continue
            testing.  The processor will be able to enable/ disable each
            power supply individually.  It will also be able to measure
            and adjust the voltage level on each.  The plan is to use
            the power supply board with various EPROM socket modules. 
            The first will be a 1702A programmer.  I have the PCB
            designed and it will be sent with my next PCB batch order. 
            Next step is the software.  I'm working on a GUI to run on
            Windows to control the programmer via a USB connection.  I
            hadn't used Visual Studio in a few years and I found that
            the latest version doesn't seem to have the control for
            interfacing via serial ports anymore.  They've also greatly
            complicated the procedure for creating a standalone software
            product, i.e., a .exe file.  So I ended up rolling back to
            an earlier version.  Now I'm remembering why I never liked
            using Microsoft tools. <br>
          </p>
          <p>I had a group of students request a design for a noise
            cancelling circuit for headphones.  It's just a simple
            analog circuit and seems to be working.  It's not as good as
            Bose noise cancelling, but it meets their needs as a
            demonstration as part of a medical product they're designing
            for a competition.  They also need an inverter circuit to
            produce about 35 volts AC from a 9 volt battery.  This will
            be used for controlling the opacity of a plastic lens for
            the same project.  I designed and built a circuit for them. 
            It works on my workbench.  We'll test it on the lens this
            week.</p>
          <p>I guided a student through the construction of a reflow
            oven using a design I did a few years ago.  It's working and
            she was able to successfully reflow a test board.<br>
          </p>
          <p>Another student is working on a Cyclic Voltameter as a
            project for a class she is in.  I had never heard of this
            until I looked it up.  It's a pretty interesting analytical
            chemistry technique.  I made some improvements to her
            circuit and designed a PCB.  Now she is testing it and
            starting to get some good results with her probe.  (With my
            town being the global headquarters of Dow Chemical, we get a
            lot of students interested in chemistry.  Especially if they
            have a PhD chemist or two in the family.)<br>
          </p>
          <p>These projects have been keeping me from completing my
            GPSDO design.  But I've confirmed all the parts and
            dimensions and tested major parts of the circuit.  Next I
            will be doing the PCB layouts.</p>
          <p>So far it's been a busy winter -- though I did find time to
            spend a few weeks on the gulf coast.</p>
          <p>Regards.<br>
          </p>
          <p>Will<br>
          </p>
          <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/6/2023 2:27 AM, <a
              class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated moz-txt-link-freetext"
              href="mailto:craig@sbc-85.com" moz-do-not-send="true">craig@sbc-85.com</a>
            wrote:<br>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Hi Will, I hope all is well.<o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">I forget, I know you made one also,
                but did I send you a STD backplane?  I now have card
                guides for the backplane and if you would like I can
                send you a backplane and a set of card guides.  I can
                print a cooling plenum too if you are running anything
                that gets hot enough to need it.<o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Just let me know what color you would
                like and I can print them and send them out to you.<o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Best regards<o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Craig<o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> whalphen <a
                      class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                      href="mailto:whalphen@gmail.com"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;whalphen@gmail.com&gt;</a>
                    <br>
                    <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 28, 2022 10:41 AM<br>
                    <b>To:</b> SBC-85 <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                      href="mailto:craig@sbc-85.com"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;craig@sbc-85.com&gt;</a><br>
                    <b>Subject:</b> Re: 38P70 clock and companions<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
              <p>Hi Craig.  Wow!  Nice job on the documentation!<o:p></o:p></p>
              <p>I don't need a new project -- but this one looks good
                enough to bump some other project off my list.  So yeah,
                I'll plan on building this.  I don't have all my old
                74LS chips in my online inventory, so I'll need to
                manually check them against your BOM and get any missing
                parts on order.  (Actually I recently organized all my
                old chips, so I might as well get them into the database
                while I'm at it.  I've been using PartsBox for a few
                years.  It's been a great help in managing the parts
                inventory -- especially for all the kits we use with the
                school groups.  If you haven't seen it, check it out. 
                Jan Rychter has done an excellent job developing and
                commercializing the product.  He's also a nice guy,
                readily accessible and responsive if any problems.  And
                best of all, you can use the software for free.  I think
                there is a stated limit on the number of parts you can
                track for free, but he doesn't enforce that limit.)<o:p></o:p></p>
              <p>I did some programming of the 38P70.  Your video on
                setting up the assembler was very helpful.  And the
                software you provided was great to get me back into the
                assembly language programming mindset.  I used the
                internal counter to create a 1 KHz timebase and intend
                to try using the LM331 V to F converter to do some
                analog measurement.  I had trouble getting the LM331
                chip -- the US suppliers distributors are all out of
                stock.  I received some from AliExpress, but they turned
                out to be fake.  I managed to get some from Newark's UK
                stock.  Now I just need to wire them up.  <o:p></o:p></p>
              <p>Interestingly, Newark also showed stock on some
                Microchip components I need, but after I placed the
                order, they sent an email stating that they would not
                send the Microchip parts.  Apparently Microchip has
                asked them to sell only to certain commercial customers
                -- and that doesn't include me.  Unfortunately Microchip
                has bought up many of the other manufacturers over the
                past few years, so that means many chips are no longer
                readily available to individuals.  I did notice that
                non-commercial customers can can still place orders
                directly with Microchip, but the shipments are from
                Thailand and the cost of shipping is high.  So it's a
                deal breaker unless I place a large order.<o:p></o:p></p>
              <p>I've been working on building a programmer for 1702A
                eproms.  I have some PIC microcontrollers and tried
                using one to act as a boost converter.  It worked,
                except that it doesn't have quite the timing resolution
                I need for the PWM.  And the ones that do are not
                available.  So I decided to just use boost converter
                chips and select specific voltage levels directly from
                the microcontroller's GPIO pins.  My objective is to
                leverage the same design as a voltage source for another
                programmer for 8748 processors.  But, again, I'm having
                trouble sourcing parts.  The shortages are affecting
                even some mosfets.  Oh well.  I have enough parts on
                hand to breadboard the boost circuits.  I'll look for
                alternative mosfets in the meantime.  I obtained some of
                them from AliExpress and they are actually functional --
                but don't know if they will meet the specs stated in the
                datasheets.  AliExpress seems to be a reasonable source
                for passive components, but I've had too many bad
                experiences with silicon I've purchased there in the
                past couple of years.  But I've always been able to
                easily get a refund for the bad stuff.<o:p></o:p></p>
              <p>I typically have multiple projects going in parallel. 
                So I switched projects and built a VHF power amp that I
                had on the back burner.  And also a HF power amp.  And
                got some more work done on a couple of antenna
                projects.  I'm starting to think that I'm spending just
                as much time on the task switching as on the projects
                themselves!<o:p></o:p></p>
              <p>Thanks for updating me on the status of the
                documentation for the 8085 STD card.  It'll be good to
                put some of my old STD stuff to use again.  Vintage
                chips may end up being the only feasible option if the
                semiconductor shortages continue!<o:p></o:p></p>
              <p>Regards.<o:p></o:p></p>
              <p>Will<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">On 7/27/2022 10:52 PM, SBC-85
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">Hi Will<o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
                </div>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">I have been working on the STD
                    board this week and the documentation.  So far the
                    board looks good if you need a new build project.<o:p></o:p></p>
                </div>
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                </div>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><a
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                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://bitsofthegoldenage.org/documentation/std-8085-sbc-v1-x-documentation/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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                </div>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">Regards<o:p></o:p></p>
                </div>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
                </div>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">Craig<o:p></o:p></p>
                </div>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                    <br>
                    <o:p></o:p></p>
                  <blockquote
                    style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On
                      Jun 23, 2022, at 9:15 AM, whalphen <a
                        href="mailto:whalphen@gmail.com"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;whalphen@gmail.com&gt;</a>
                      wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
                  </blockquote>
                </div>
                <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">﻿ <o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p>Thanks Craig.  Good job with the code.  It's been
                      a few years since I've done any assembly language
                      programming.  C and C++ have spoiled me.  It's
                      always helpful to have some working routines as a
                      base to build on.  I'm not one to be critical of
                      others' coding.  If it works it's good.  Of course
                      there are always opportunities to change and
                      improve code -- and I always appreciate when I
                      find some code I can improve on.  One of the fun
                      things about assembly language programming on
                      processors from the early years is when I stumble
                      across a way to save a byte or two of ROM or RAM. 
                      On modern systems, there just isn't much
                      satisfaction in saving memory or cycles when the
                      system runs 100 times faster than necessary and
                      has many kilobytes unused anyway.<o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p>I do not have a programmer for the 8755.  I never
                      used that chip.  The designs I worked on used the
                      8742, which was basically added a slave MCS-48
                      processor core to the 8755.  However, I don't have
                      a programmer for the 8742 either.  In our old
                      instrument development workshop, we had a couple
                      of Intellec development systems.  One had an 8085
                      emulator in it.  The other had an 8742 emulator in
                      it.  Our STD designs used the 8085 as the main
                      processor.  And we offloaded the user interfaces
                      to an 8748 STD board that we custom designed. 
                      Debugging of the software involved two people --
                      one running the 8085 emulator and the other
                      running the 8742 emulator.  We also used our own
                      STD board design for actuating valves, mixers, and
                      other devices.  And we developed some measurement
                      instruments that would plug into the STD bus.  For
                      example, we designed a colorometer that used a
                      fiber optic probe to pass a light of a specific
                      color through a sample stream to detect the
                      presence of specific chemicals.  By offloading
                      some of the work to the 8748, we could do more
                      data processing on the 8085.  It was loads of
                      fun!  And we got paid for it!<o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p>Although I think it would be fun to play with a
                      minimal 8085 system -- I've always kicked around
                      the idea of building one -- I'm not currently
                      setup for it.<o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p>Will<o:p></o:p></p>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">On 6/22/2022 7:55 PM, <a
                          href="mailto:craig@sbc-85.com"
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          class="moz-txt-link-freetext">craig@sbc-85.com</a>
                        wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <blockquote
                      style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                      <p class="MsoNormal">Hi Will<o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">I have attached a zip file
                        with the clock code.  Renamed in case your
                        antivirus or a server along the way takes issue
                        with a *.bin file.<o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">I am using the dasm
                        assembler.  Included in these is a txt file that
                        is the command line usage for that assembler.  I
                        have had a wave of people asking for a video on
                        setting up to program the F8.  For my channel,
                        two requests is a wave, any more and it is a
                        tsunami.   So such a video is in the concept
                        stage.<o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">I forget my last bit of work
                        with this and am 99% sure this is the latest
                        code that is what I sent you,  I know code
                        should stand on its own, but let me look through
                        the code and call forth the wisdom genie to hand
                        out useful pieces of advice----<o:p></o:p></p>
                      <ol style="margin-top:0in" type="1" start="1">
                        <li class="MsoListParagraph"
                          style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1
                          lfo3">All of the commented out PI subroutines
                          was for diagnostics and no longer serve a
                          purpose<o:p></o:p></li>
                        <li class="MsoListParagraph"
                          style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1
                          lfo3">You can see that I use the SET pseudo
                          opcode frequently to provide a local
                          assignment to registers.  I am not sure if I
                          even tested this assembler to see if it gives
                          errors if I try to redefine after using the
                          EQU pseudo opcode but that is my policy….. 
                          EQU for things defined once, SET for throwaway
                          definitions.<o:p></o:p></li>
                        <li class="MsoListParagraph"
                          style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1
                          lfo3">The current state of port 0 and 5 are
                          kept in registers.  When modified the register
                          value is changed and then sent out to the port
                          rather than changing directly.<o:p></o:p></li>
                        <li class="MsoListParagraph"
                          style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1
                          lfo3">I am working on wiping out all of the
                          initial clock set code and just have it come
                          up with the saved time.  If the user wants to
                          change they can then enter a change mode.<o:p></o:p></li>
                        <li class="MsoListParagraph"
                          style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1
                          lfo3">I thought I just commented out the
                          serial port output for the splashscreen and
                          the input test but I do not see them at all. 
                          But the CI and CO routines have been tested
                          and were working.  1200 baud it says but I may
                          have been tweaking the delay values and not
                          gotten back to updating the comment.  So maybe
                          2400 but probably 1200.<o:p></o:p></li>
                        <li class="MsoListParagraph"
                          style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1
                          lfo3">The main loop is, as expected, the WAIT:
                          portion of the code and it is called out by an
                          interrupt to flip the LED.<o:p></o:p></li>
                        <li class="MsoListParagraph"
                          style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1
                          lfo3">All calls are only one deep so there is
                          a noticeable essence of the 8008 and other
                          stackless devices.<o:p></o:p></li>
                        <li class="MsoListParagraph"
                          style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1
                          lfo3">If you think this code is embarrassingly
                          amateurish, you should have seen my first
                          attempt.  This *<b>is</b>* the improved
                          version.<o:p></o:p></li>
                      </ol>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">If you have any questions
                        about why I did something how I did it, please
                        ask.  We can then try to figure it out together.<o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">I am thinking of reissuing an
                        old board I made that is essentially the intel
                        MCS-85 3-chip minimum system that they put in
                        all their MCS-85 data books.  I haven’t bothered
                        with this board since very few can program the
                        8755.  How about you? can you program 8755s and
                        would have a interest in such a board? <o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">I am also thinking of
                        resurrecting another version that has two 8155s
                        and two 8755s so, except for the 8279
                        keyboard/display controller (and keypad and
                        display) it basically has the same functionality
                        as a SDK-85.  A terminal is much easier to use
                        than the keyboard/display on the SDK which is
                        why I didn’t bother with a keypad.<o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">Regards<o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">craig<o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                      <div>
                        <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1
                          1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> whalphen <a
                              href="mailto:whalphen@gmail.com"
                              moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;whalphen@gmail.com&gt;</a>
                            <br>
                            <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 22, 2022 3:01
                            PM<br>
                            <b>To:</b> SBC-85 <a
                              href="mailto:craig@sbc-85.com"
                              moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;craig@sbc-85.com&gt;</a><br>
                            <b>Subject:</b> Re: 38P70 clock and
                            companions<o:p></o:p></p>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p>Hi Craig,<o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p>I tried the MK38P70 board.  It's nice to see a
                        processor run after being stored away and
                        forgotten for four decades!  My first order of
                        business was to check each of the chips I have. 
                        Here's my results.  <o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p>Of the labeled ceramic chips, 4 seem to work
                        fine.  2 were bad.  And one would run, but some
                        of the displayed letters were garbled.  <o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p>I have four ceramic chips with no markings. 
                        One of them was non-functional.  Three displayed
                        HELLO WORLD but would not branch into the clock
                        setup.  Perhaps these are a different version of
                        the chip that's not fully compatible with your
                        program.  <o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p>Of the ones labelled as PACKAGE SAMPLE, 4
                        worked.  3 were non-functional, and one was
                        labelled 2732 and I didn't test it.   <o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p>I have another couple of chips in a package
                        that I didn't retrieve from storage and will
                        test these later.<o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p>Some questions...<o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p>Can you give me a listing of the program you
                        provided? How did you assemble the program?  Was
                        it hand assembled or did you use an assembler?<o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p>Next I intend to set up an assembler and try
                        writing a program.  If I can start with the
                        program you wrote and modify/ extend it, that
                        would be helpful.<o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p>Will<o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p> <o:p></o:p></p>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal">On 6/21/2022 9:11 PM,
                          SBC-85 wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
                      </div>
                      <blockquote
                        style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">Hi will<o:p></o:p></p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">Yea, I wanted you to be
                            able to get going quickly. <o:p></o:p></p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">… there is always the
                            kitchen table if your bench isn’t clear. Who
                            could complain about the worlds first
                            microcomputer?<o:p></o:p></p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                            <br>
                            <br>
                            <o:p></o:p></p>
                          <blockquote
                            style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On Jun 21,
                              2022, at 5:39 PM, whalphen <a
                                href="mailto:whalphen@gmail.com"
                                moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;whalphen@gmail.com&gt;</a>
                              wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
                          </blockquote>
                        </div>
                        <blockquote
                          style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal">﻿ <o:p></o:p></p>
                            <p>Hi Craig,<o:p></o:p></p>
                            <p>I received your package today.  I was
                              pleasantly surprised to see all that you
                              put in there.  Thank you very much!  I can
                              see that I won't run out of things to play
                              with anytime soon.  Now I need to go clear
                              the stuff off my workbench so I can try
                              out the 38P70 tomorrow!<o:p></o:p></p>
                            <p>Will<o:p></o:p></p>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal">On 6/17/2022 3:47 PM,
                                <a href="mailto:craig@sbc-85.com"
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  class="moz-txt-link-freetext">craig@sbc-85.com</a>
                                wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
                            </div>
                            <blockquote
                              style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                              <p class="MsoNormal">Hi Will,<o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal">All boxed up and
                                ready to go.  USPS tracking number ----<o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><a
href="https://tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfirmAction?tRef=fullpage&amp;tLc=2&amp;text28777=&amp;tLabels=9405511108033825465675"
                                  moz-do-not-send="true">9405511108033825465675</a><o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal">The STD board works
                                and has been tested at a minimal level. 
                                I need to do some more extensive testing
                                with the memory mapping to have a wider
                                combination of standard and auxiliary
                                configurations, but it works with
                                everything I have tried so far.  I
                                really like not having fixed
                                configurations on the memory sockets and
                                being able to use the ZIF for high
                                memory while using a resident monitor in
                                a base EPROM, or moving the ZIF to
                                0x0000 if I want to work on the resident
                                monitor program and have it easy to pop
                                in and out.  As always, lots of
                                documentation and software to write and
                                I want to test it with EEPROMs but need
                                to write code first.   I also have not
                                even started testing the STD interface
                                so I need to put it in a cage and start
                                adding other boards.<o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for the video
                                feedback and encouragement.  I don’t
                                think that I will influence many of
                                those raised on JTAG to disconnect their
                                super-tool and go back to old-school
                                diagnostics, but I hope to do my little
                                part.  I am getting anxious to start
                                getting my intellect 8/80 boards up. 
                                Not that every grandmother will want to
                                build an intellect 8, but there is a lot
                                of history there.<o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal">Summer has not
                                started here yet.  A bit of flying but
                                not as much as usual for this time of
                                year.  I always have projects at home,
                                so never any time to roam the bars or
                                otherwise cause trouble.  There are
                                already a lot of flying videos so I
                                don’t think I have a lot to contribute
                                there.  What I may do is some geology of
                                the pacific northwest flying videos
                                since we live in a pretty amazing area
                                geology wise and it can be beautiful
                                from the air.  This is an amazing part
                                of the country by any measure, but
                                especially the story about how the
                                pacific northwest came to be.  <o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal">craig<o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                              <div>
                                <div style="border:none;border-top:solid
                                  #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in
                                  0in">
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b>
                                    whalphen <a
                                      href="mailto:whalphen@gmail.com"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;whalphen@gmail.com&gt;</a>
                                    <br>
                                    <b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 17, 2022
                                    7:14 AM<br>
                                    <b>To:</b> <a
                                      href="mailto:craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com</a><br>
                                    <b>Subject:</b> Re: 3870 project<o:p></o:p></p>
                                </div>
                              </div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p>Hi Craig.  I was traveling the last few
                                weeks (Michigan to North Carolina to
                                Alabama to Louisiana then returned via
                                the same long route) but I managed to
                                watch the 38P70 videos.  Good job!  I
                                keep thinking how valuable your videos
                                are in that they pull together a lot of
                                relevant information from the past and
                                preserve it for those who will be
                                interested in the future.<o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p>I got back to Michigan in time for the
                                start of the nice weather and have been
                                spending time getting caught up on
                                things at home.  I just finished
                                re-installing my HF antennas, having
                                removed them for some tree cutting last
                                fall.<o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p>I am eager to try out the 38P70 board. 
                                So yes, please send it.<o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p>Next month things will slow down around
                                here and I'll be looking forward to
                                spending time in my workshop in the cool
                                basement constructing and testing some
                                PCBs.  The last several years I've
                                mostly done RF design and construction,
                                gradually moving from analog designs to
                                more digital signal processing.  But
                                much of that is on hold now as the
                                digital processors are all out of
                                stock.  So the 38P70 will be a nice
                                shift of focus.<o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p>What's the status of your STD bus 8085
                                processor board?  I'm thinking I would
                                like to build one of those at some
                                point.<o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p>I hope you are finding time to get out
                                and enjoy the summer.  Have you been
                                doing any flying?  Do you have any
                                flying videos posted?<o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p>Will<o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p> <o:p></o:p></p>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal">On 6/16/2022 9:33
                                  PM, <a
                                    href="mailto:craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext">craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com</a>
                                  wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
                              </div>
                              <blockquote
                                style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                <p class="MsoNormal">Hi Will,<o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal">I am just checking
                                  back to see if you are ready for your
                                  38P70 board.  I have the last of the
                                  components and can send it any time.
                                   It is still running the original
                                  clock code, someone is pushing me to
                                  get the STD-85 board done and tested
                                  so I haven’t gotten back to the this
                                  code.  I have your address from your
                                  letter enclosed with the items you
                                  sent me.  Let me know if you would
                                  like any of my other bare boards.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal">It keeps mediocre
                                  time, the crystal I have runs about a
                                  minute ahead every few weeks.  Other
                                  than that, it is a joy to have here on
                                  my desk giving me a little beep every
                                  minute.  Thanks again for getting me
                                  into this project.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal">I think in the next
                                  version of this board I would like to
                                  have five little pushbuttons arranged
                                  center,up,down,left,right… I am
                                  thinking there must be some sort of
                                  mindless game that could be played
                                  with the 16 digits of the display.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal">Best regards<o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal">Craig<o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                <div>
                                  <div
                                    style="border:none;border-top:solid
                                    #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in
                                    0in">
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b>
                                      craig Andrews <a
                                        href="mailto:craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com&gt;</a>
                                      <br>
                                      <b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 06, 2022
                                      7:28 PM<br>
                                      <b>To:</b> Will Halphen <a
                                        href="mailto:whalphen@gmail.com"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;whalphen@gmail.com&gt;</a><br>
                                      <b>Subject:</b> Re: 3870 project<o:p></o:p></p>
                                  </div>
                                </div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for the
                                    update.  Just let me know when you
                                    are ready for the board. I ran out
                                    of supervisory IC and the rotary
                                    switches which will be here in 3 or
                                    4 days.  Also the real time clock
                                    which I expect to show up sometime
                                    this week too.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                </div>
                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                </div>
                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal">Regards<o:p></o:p></p>
                                </div>
                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                </div>
                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal">Craig<o:p></o:p></p>
                                </div>
                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                </div>
                                <div>
                                  <div>&lt;image001.jpg&gt;</div>
                                  <o:p></o:p> </div>
                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                </div>
                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                </div>
                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                                    <br>
                                    <br>
                                    <br>
                                    <br>
                                    <o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <blockquote
                                    style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On
                                      May 6, 2022, at 2:18 PM, Will
                                      Halphen &lt;<a
                                        href="mailto:whalphen@gmail.com"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">whalphen@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                                      wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
                                  </blockquote>
                                </div>
                                <blockquote
                                  style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal">﻿<o:p></o:p></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                        style="color:#1F497D">Hi Craig,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                        style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                        style="color:#1F497D">I think
                                        it’s all correct to the extent
                                        I’m aware of the history – which
                                        isn’t much.  I sent notes to
                                        some of my old Mostek buddies to
                                        take a look and asked for any
                                        additional information they may
                                        be able to provide.  I watched
                                        the rest of the videos and look
                                        forward to seeing the working
                                        hardware.  Sorry to hear that
                                        one of the chips was bad.  But’s
                                        that’s to be expected for old
                                        components.  I have more of the
                                        chips and can send you some if
                                        needed.  My fear was that all of
                                        them would be bad.  I’m glad
                                        that’s not the case.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                        style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                        style="color:#1F497D">I’ll be
                                        leaving next week to move my
                                        daughter to North Carolina – she
                                        just graduated from University
                                        of Michigan Engineering and will
                                        be working in Raleigh-Durham
                                        area.  After that I will be
                                        going to my house in Louisiana
                                        for 2-3 weeks, but will be
                                        accessible via email. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                        style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                        style="color:#1F497D">I hope you
                                        have a nice time away for the
                                        summer!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                        style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                        style="color:#1F497D">Will</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                        style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                    <div>
                                      <div
                                        style="border:none;border-top:solid
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b>
                                          craig Andrews [<a
                                            href="mailto:craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com"
                                            moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com</a>]
                                          <br>
                                          <b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 06,
                                          2022 1:55 PM<br>
                                          <b>To:</b> Will Halphen &lt;<a
href="mailto:whalphen@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            class="moz-txt-link-freetext">whalphen@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                          <b>Subject:</b> Re: 3870
                                          project<o:p></o:p></p>
                                      </div>
                                    </div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal">Hi Will, <o:p></o:p></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for
                                        the feedback on the video.  I
                                        hope I got most of the history
                                        of the 3870 correct, not just
                                        yours but Fairchild/Mostek
                                        3850/3870 in general.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal">I still have
                                        one more F8 video that is
                                        already recorded that needs
                                        editing and then I will be
                                        caught up.  It is a bring up of
                                        the hardware.  I still some
                                        testing and have lots of
                                        software to write, but the basic
                                        boards seem to work fine.  Since
                                        you can program 2716s I can just
                                        send you software updates as I
                                        go along and figure out how to
                                        do things on the F8.  I haven’t
                                        talked to the RTC yet and I have
                                        serial out but haven’t done
                                        serial input.  Right now my F8
                                        assembly is pretty amateurish
                                        but (I hope) getting better.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal">Of the two
                                        3870s you sent I randomly picked
                                        one to put in the first board
                                        after I had completed
                                        rudimentary checks and taken all
                                        preliminary precautions.  The
                                        board fired up right away and
                                        successfully ran my test code.
                                         Later I assembled your board
                                        and put in the second processor
                                        which turned out to be non
                                        functional.  I am really glad
                                        that I randomly picked the
                                        functional processor first,
                                        because I would have been
                                        extremely hesitant to plug in
                                        the second processor if the
                                        first one hadn’t worked.  A
                                        month or so I bought two more
                                        but they are coming from
                                        Portugal I think so will be in
                                        shipping for weeks.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal">I certainly
                                        will be making another version
                                        of this board to refine some
                                        things to make the software
                                        easier.  Mostly moving pins.
                                         But right now I do not have
                                        another pcb order planned and I
                                        hope to be away much of the
                                        summer, so the next round may
                                        not be for a few months.  <o:p></o:p></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal">If you or
                                        your Mostek friends have any
                                        more history to add for the
                                        videos, it would be
                                        appreciated. <o:p></o:p></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks again
                                        for getting me started on this
                                        project<o:p></o:p></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal">Regards<o:p></o:p></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal">Craig<o:p></o:p></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                                        <br>
                                        <br>
                                        <br>
                                        <br>
                                        <br>
                                        <o:p></o:p></p>
                                      <blockquote
                                        style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                                          style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On
                                          May 5, 2022, at 9:01 PM, Will
                                          Halphen &lt;<a
                                            href="mailto:whalphen@gmail.com"
                                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            class="moz-txt-link-freetext">whalphen@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                                          wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
                                      </blockquote>
                                    </div>
                                    <blockquote
                                      style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal">﻿<o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                            style="color:#1F497D">I just
                                            watched the first of your F8
                                            videos.  Excellent job!  The
                                            historical background was
                                            great.  I really enjoyed it
                                            and look forward to watching
                                            the rest of the videos.  I
                                            also can’t wait to let my
                                            old Mostek buddies know
                                            about this project.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                            style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                            style="color:#1F497D">Thanks.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                            style="color:#1F497D">Will</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                            style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <div>
                                          <div
                                            style="border:none;border-top:solid
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b>
                                              <a
                                                href="mailto:craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com"
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com</a>
                                              [<a
                                                href="mailto:craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com"
                                                moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com</a>]
                                              <br>
                                              <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May
                                              03, 2022 9:26 PM<br>
                                              <b>To:</b> 'Will Halphen'
                                              &lt;<a
                                                href="mailto:whalphen@gmail.com"
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">whalphen@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                              <b>Subject:</b> RE: 3870
                                              project<o:p></o:p></p>
                                          </div>
                                        </div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal">Hi Will,<o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal">I wanted to
                                          also check if you still had a
                                          38P70, hopefully I will have a
                                          board to send you soon.  I
                                          will populate everything else
                                          on the board and include an
                                          eprom so you will just need to
                                          plug in a 38P70.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal">  <o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal">How are
                                          your F8 programming skills?<o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal">Regards<o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal">Craig<o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <div>
                                          <div
                                            style="border:none;border-top:solid
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b>
                                              Will Halphen &lt;<a
                                                href="mailto:whalphen@gmail.com"
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">whalphen@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                                              <br>
                                              <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday,
                                              April 20, 2022 4:29 PM<br>
                                              <b>To:</b> <a
                                                href="mailto:craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com"
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com</a><br>
                                              <b>Subject:</b> RE: 3870
                                              project<o:p></o:p></p>
                                          </div>
                                        </div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                            style="color:#1F497D">Hi
                                            Craig.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                            style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                            style="color:#1F497D">Yes, I
                                            can program 2716 EPROMS and
                                            I have a boatload of them.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                            style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                            style="color:#1F497D">I’m
                                            looking forward to the
                                            videos!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                            style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                            style="color:#1F497D">Lately
                                            I’ve been working on a radio
                                            receiver design.  But it
                                            would be good to shift focus
                                            to a digital project for a
                                            while.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                            style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                            style="color:#1F497D">Regards.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                            style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                            style="color:#1F497D">Will</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                            style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <div>
                                          <div
                                            style="border:none;border-top:solid
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b>
                                              <a
                                                href="mailto:craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com"
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com</a>
                                              [<a
                                                href="mailto:craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com"
                                                moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com</a>]
                                              <br>
                                              <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday,
                                              April 20, 2022 7:25 PM<br>
                                              <b>To:</b> 'Will Halphen'
                                              &lt;<a
                                                href="mailto:whalphen@gmail.com"
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">whalphen@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                              <b>Subject:</b> RE: 3870
                                              project<o:p></o:p></p>
                                          </div>
                                        </div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal">Hi Will,<o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal">I hope all
                                          is going well on your end.  <o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal">Are you
                                          able to program 2716 EPROMS?<o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal">Taxes are
                                          done, wife has mostly healed
                                          so I am getting back to
                                          working the 38P70 project.  I
                                          need to finish up and post the
                                          project introduction video, I
                                          will set that for this week’s
                                          goal.    Since it will use a
                                          2716, I wanted to make sure
                                          that you can program them.  I
                                          have settled on a real time
                                          clock with some 15 segment
                                          intelligent displays (DL2416),
                                          a serial port, a RTC chip,
                                          switch input, LED, speaker
                                          output.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal">Best
                                          regards<o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal">Craig<o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <div>
                                          <div
                                            style="border:none;border-top:solid
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b>
                                              Will Halphen &lt;<a
                                                href="mailto:whalphen@gmail.com"
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">whalphen@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                                              <br>
                                              <b>Sent:</b> Saturday,
                                              February 19, 2022 8:54 AM<br>
                                              <b>To:</b> 'craig Andrews'
                                              &lt;<a
                                                href="mailto:craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com"
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                              <b>Subject:</b> RE: 3870
                                              project<o:p></o:p></p>
                                          </div>
                                        </div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                            style="color:#1F497D">Hello
                                            Craig,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                            style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                            style="color:#1F497D">Glad
                                            you received the package
                                            ok.  I’ve seen photos of
                                            both styles of those 38p70
                                            chips in commercial
                                            products.  So I don’t know
                                            if they came out at the same
                                            time or if one came after
                                            the other.  The Mostek
                                            documentation does state
                                            that the 3874 was renumbered
                                            to 38p70.  My guess is that
                                            the 3874 came out first and
                                            that the cerdip package of
                                            the 38p70 became more common
                                            in the industry, so the 3874
                                            got dropped.  My friends
                                            were involved in
                                            manufacturing and testing of
                                            chips.  (I think it was
                                            typical that new engineers
                                            were put in testing roles.) 
                                            So they probably sent me
                                            whatever was surplus at the
                                            time.  I have lots of Mostek
                                            chips that are not labeled
                                            but were surplus after the
                                            chips were tested.  For
                                            example, I have a set of
                                            unlabeled 8K rams in a box
                                            with a note from my friend
                                            stating that they were
                                            successfully tested for 3000
                                            hours at 125 degrees.  I
                                            have another Mostek z80
                                            processor with the lid held
                                            on by scotch tape.  I don’t
                                            know the background on the
                                            38p70 chips.  I have no
                                            guarantee that all of these
                                            chips will work.  That’s why
                                            I sent you four 38p70s. 
                                            Hopefully all are good. 
                                            But, in case you find a bad
                                            one, there are spares.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                            style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                            style="color:#1F497D">I have
                                            a few unmarked (or hand
                                            labeled) piggyback
                                            processors that were clearly
                                            used for testing.  I recall
                                            expressing that I was
                                            interested in that chip, so
                                            I was sent a couple of tubes
                                            of the labeled chips. 
                                            That’s where yours came
                                            from.  So I suspect these
                                            were likely engineering
                                            samples.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                            style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                            style="color:#1F497D">L J
                                            Sevin was one of the
                                            founders of Mostek.  He was
                                            also a native of my home
                                            town, Baton Rouge, and
                                            graduated from LSU
                                            Electrical Engineering. 
                                            That’s where I went to
                                            school.  So Mostek regularly
                                            recruited from LSU and many
                                            of many classmates (and I)
                                            were able to visit Mostek
                                            and received job offers.  I
                                            was already having a great
                                            time working part time at
                                            Dow Chemical so I didn’t
                                            accept the offer from
                                            Mostek, but a number of
                                            classmates did.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                            style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                            style="color:#1F497D">I have
                                            no other documentation for
                                            the PLS-441.  I spent some
                                            time searching the internet
                                            and found nothing.  Herb
                                            Johnson sent me the pinout
                                            document.  I don’t think
                                            it’s necessary to recreate a
                                            schematic in order to run
                                            the board.  The pinout
                                            should give enough
                                            information to determine how
                                            to connect to it.  And I’m
                                            guessing that Intel
                                            application information can
                                            be found for the 4040
                                            chipset showing the typical
                                            interconnections and how to
                                            use it.  Of course, be wary
                                            of the 40 year old
                                            capacitors.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                            style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                            style="color:#1F497D">This
                                            morning I watched your
                                            latest video on the early
                                            Intel development systems. 
                                            Nice video!  It brought back
                                            lots of memories.  When I
                                            went fulltime at Dow, they
                                            let me buy the Intellec
                                            Series II MDS model 225 with
                                            a memory expansion and an
                                            additional pair of floppy
                                            drives.  It was better than
                                            any development system I had
                                            used in school and better
                                            than the older Intellec and
                                            S100 systems used in the
                                            labs at Dow.  And the floppy
                                            drives sure beat the paper
                                            tape the other systems were
                                            using.  A coworker and I
                                            stayed late one evening and
                                            ran a twisted pair thru the
                                            attics and cable trays
                                            across the facilities and
                                            connected it to the PDP-11
                                            that was used as the main
                                            time share system for
                                            R&amp;D.  Also connected a
                                            300 baud modem.  So I had,
                                            by far, the best development
                                            system/ terminal in the
                                            facilities.  The MDS came
                                            with a complete set of
                                            schematics and firmware
                                            listing.  So I got to know
                                            that system very well.  I
                                            even took out the original
                                            green CRT (the tube itself)
                                            and replaced it with an
                                            amber tube.  I did lots of
                                            fun development using
                                            Assembler and PL/M and could
                                            even connect via modem from
                                            home.  (My boss had never
                                            heard of the concept of
                                            doing software work from
                                            home with a remote terminal
                                            and at first objected – but
                                            later relented.) </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                            style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                            style="color:#1F497D">We
                                            setup a second development
                                            system next to mine (I think
                                            it was a WinSystems unit
                                            which also used the same
                                            Intel bus).  We installed
                                            processor emulators in both
                                            systems and were able to
                                            develop some dual processor
                                            instruments, with each
                                            development system running
                                            the emulator for one
                                            processor.  At the time
                                            Intel produced the Universal
                                            Peripheral Interface, 8741. 
                                            It was an MCS-48 family
                                            processor setup for use as a
                                            slave.  Using that chip we
                                            designed smart STD
                                            peripheral cards for our
                                            instrument systems.  For
                                            example, an 8741 was used to
                                            offload the user interface
                                            from the main processor. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                            style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                            style="color:#1F497D">I
                                            still can’t believe I was
                                            paid to have so much fun.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                            style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                            style="color:#1F497D">I hope
                                            you enjoy the stuff I sent. 
                                            And keep the magic smoke
                                            inside the chips!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                            style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                            style="color:#1F497D">Will</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                            style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <div>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b>
                                              craig Andrews [<a
                                                href="mailto:craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com"
                                                moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com</a>]
                                              <br>
                                              <b>Sent:</b> Friday,
                                              February 18, 2022 11:22 PM<br>
                                              <b>To:</b> Will Halphen
                                              &lt;<a
                                                href="mailto:whalphen@gmail.com"
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">whalphen@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                              <b>Subject:</b> Re: 3870
                                              project<o:p></o:p></p>
                                          </div>
                                        </div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Hi Will, <o:p></o:p></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Received
                                            the boards and chips today.
                                             The 38p70s should make an
                                            interesting video.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal">So your
                                            friends sent you both the
                                            prototypes and finished
                                            chips at the same time<o:p></o:p></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Is there
                                            a schematic anywhere for the
                                            pls 441 that you know of? or
                                            should I create a schematic.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal">I forgot
                                            to mention when you sent the
                                            scanned 881 schematic that
                                            on your board they did not
                                            have that odd cap to the
                                            tank circuit on the 8225
                                            clock.  And they had a
                                            jumper to eliminate the trim
                                            cap on the crystal input
                                            (which is funny since the
                                            user could just take the
                                            trim cap out and put jumper
                                            in its pads)<o:p></o:p></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks
                                            again, I will keep you
                                            updated<o:p></o:p></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Best
                                            regards<o:p></o:p></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Craig<o:p></o:p></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                          <blockquote
                                            style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On
                                              Feb 17, 2022, at 4:28 PM,
                                              Will Halphen &lt;<a
                                                href="mailto:whalphen@gmail.com"
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">whalphen@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                                              wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
                                          </blockquote>
                                        </div>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal">﻿<o:p></o:p></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                                style="color:#1F497D">Interesting
                                                that you enjoy flying. 
                                                I’ve always had a desire
                                                to learn to fly, but
                                                never pursued the
                                                interest.  It must be a
                                                very enjoyable activity!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                                style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                                style="color:#1F497D">I’ve
                                                got several design
                                                projects underway at the
                                                moment.  Each project
                                                goes on hold once I
                                                determine the parts I
                                                need to order.  When I
                                                have order lists from
                                                several projects I’ll
                                                place the orders for the
                                                parts.  Similarly, I
                                                wait and order PCBs for
                                                several projects at a
                                                time.  So my projects
                                                can take a long time,
                                                but I’m regularly
                                                completing some. 
                                                Anyway, today I was
                                                working on a hexadecimal
                                                display module.  I have
                                                a tube full of seven
                                                segment LED displays
                                                that someone gave me at
                                                the local amateur radio
                                                swap meet.  The tough
                                                thing is getting HEX
                                                decoders for seven
                                                segment displays.  The
                                                only chip I know of is
                                                the MC14495 and it seems
                                                to no longer be
                                                available in North
                                                America – except from  a
                                                few scalpers.  So I’m
                                                proceeding with a design
                                                using an ATTINY
                                                processor feeding the
                                                display characters via
                                                shift registers with
                                                latches.  One of the
                                                nice things about it is
                                                the processor can be
                                                setup to handle a
                                                variety of interfaces –
                                                even the STD bus.  The
                                                vintage tech is nice and
                                                familiar.  But the
                                                modern stuff is pretty
                                                flexible.  This is an
                                                amazing time to enjoy
                                                electronic design! 
                                                Incredibly capable
                                                devices, cheap
                                                components, powerful
                                                tools, and easy made to
                                                order PCBs and 3D
                                                printed items.
                                                 (However, I do have a
                                                few projects on hold
                                                because of part
                                                shortages lately.)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                                style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                                style="color:#1F497D">Will</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                                style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                                style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                            <div>
                                              <div
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                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b>
                                                  <a
                                                    href="mailto:craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com</a>
                                                  [<a
                                                    href="mailto:craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com</a>] <br>
                                                  <b>Sent:</b>
                                                  Wednesday, February
                                                  16, 2022 3:19 PM<br>
                                                  <b>To:</b> 'Will
                                                  Halphen' &lt;<a
                                                    href="mailto:whalphen@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">whalphen@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                                  <b>Subject:</b> 3870
                                                  project<o:p></o:p></p>
                                              </div>
                                            </div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal">Hi
                                              Will,<o:p></o:p></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal">Regarding
                                              the bus contention, I am
                                              more worried about
                                              outputting high on the
                                              port while held low from
                                              the driving IC.  A 1n270
                                              forward biased towards the
                                              driving chip will take
                                              care of that….. the
                                              driving chip can pull the
                                              port low as needed, but if
                                              the port is pulling the
                                              line low it cannot sink
                                              from the driving chip. 
                                              The forward drop of the
                                              1n270 is small enough to
                                              keep the logic low below
                                              the threshold.  if I use a
                                              resistor for protection I
                                              would have trouble hitting
                                              the 0.7V logic low
                                              threshold.  with the input
                                              pin properly set to logic
                                              1 and the driving TTL held
                                              at zero the drop across
                                              your 3.3K would be 1.75V
                                              under best case and more
                                              likely 2.2V.  so when
                                              reading the 3870 it would
                                              always be a logic 1.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal">You
                                              spend your nice days with
                                              a fly rod, I spend nice
                                              days flying… so this is a
                                              gloomy day hobby for both
                                              of us. I live near
                                              Portland so 6 months of
                                              gloomy is our trademark.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal">I see,
                                              it is the mostek SIO
                                              documentation you need, so
                                              we are in the same boat. 
                                              I have cut sheets for the
                                              winsystems 7314 and user’s
                                              manual for the versalogic
                                              but I haven’t gotten
                                              around to seeing if they
                                              are all the same.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal">What we
                                              need is the 7301 of which
                                              I have the manual but no
                                              board.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal">Anchor
                                              has 8251As for a few of
                                              dollars I think.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal">As for
                                              your modern hybrid STD,
                                              there is a fellow in
                                              Alaska that is taking the
                                              SBC-85 design and blending
                                              it with a PIC or ardunio
                                              or some other such thing. 
                                              For me, the vintage brings
                                              back better memories than
                                              my time spent with modern
                                              things, so I prefer to
                                              stick with vintage.  I do
                                              STM32 things occasionally,
                                              but only on an “as needed”
                                              basis.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal">The
                                              patient is generally well
                                              mannered and good natured
                                              and after 40 years of
                                              living with me she is well
                                              deserving of a little
                                              TLC.  (At least that is
                                              what she is telling me :).<o:p></o:p></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal">Best
                                              regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal">craig<o:p></o:p></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                            <div>
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                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b>
                                                  Will Halphen &lt;<a
                                                    href="mailto:whalphen@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">whalphen@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                                                  <br>
                                                  <b>Sent:</b>
                                                  Wednesday, February
                                                  16, 2022 10:55 AM<br>
                                                  <b>To:</b> 'craig
                                                  Andrews' &lt;<a
                                                    href="mailto:craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                                  <b>Subject:</b> RE:
                                                  PLS-881<o:p></o:p></p>
                                              </div>
                                            </div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                                style="color:#1F497D">Regarding
                                                input protection, it may
                                                be helpful to put series
                                                resistors to limit the
                                                current in the event
                                                that you output low to a
                                                high input.  The
                                                datasheet indicates that
                                                these pins can handle
                                                1.6 mA, so that would be
                                                a 3.3K resistor.  If the
                                                resistors cause any
                                                problems, you can
                                                replace them with
                                                jumpers.  </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                                style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                                style="color:#1F497D">Yes,
                                                do some SBC-85 work
                                                first.  I don’t see a
                                                need for any rush on any
                                                of this.  I live in
                                                Michigan, and the winter
                                                is long here.  So I get
                                                lots of time to work on
                                                this stuff at this time
                                                of year.  But once
                                                spring comes along (in a
                                                few months), I’ll be
                                                spending more time on
                                                the rivers with a fly
                                                rod. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                                style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                                style="color:#1F497D">I
                                                hope all goes well with
                                                your patient.  Good luck
                                                with your nursing
                                                duties.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                                style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                                style="color:#1F497D">As
                                                for the serial board, I
                                                would like to bring up
                                                one of my STD Z80 boards
                                                and want to use a serial
                                                port.  The only serial
                                                board I have is the
                                                Mostek MDX-SIO.  And
                                                that’s the only one of
                                                my Mostek boards missing
                                                the documentation.  The
                                                prolog 7314 is probably
                                                the same as the
                                                Versalogic 7314 which
                                                has documentation and a
                                                schematic available
                                                online.  But it’s a bit
                                                overkill for what I
                                                want.  I’m thinking that
                                                I will first design an
                                                STD prototype card with
                                                I/O decoders in place. 
                                                That would be a handy
                                                design to share with
                                                others.  Then I’ll clone
                                                the design, remove the
                                                prototype area, and put
                                                in a uart with one
                                                serial port.  I’ll
                                                include a uart to usb
                                                circuit on board so I
                                                can just plug it into a
                                                notebook computer as the
                                                terminal.  Now I have to
                                                find a uart chip that is
                                                readily available and
                                                not too costly.  I’m not
                                                familiar with what’s in
                                                production these days. 
                                                I have some old 8251
                                                chips, and one company
                                                still makes them, but
                                                the cost is high.  Let
                                                me think on this a
                                                while.  If I decide I
                                                want a prebuilt one, I
                                                may take you up on your
                                                offer of the 7314.  </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                                style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                                style="color:#1F497D">(It’s
                                                interesting how I keep
                                                coming up with modern
                                                solutions for these old
                                                challenges.  I keep
                                                thinking that I could do
                                                the whole serial IO
                                                design with just a
                                                single $3 PIC
                                                microcontroller.  Then I
                                                would have SPI and I2C,
                                                as well.  Could that be
                                                a thing?  An 8085 STD
                                                card with a bunch of PIC
                                                microcontrollers on STD
                                                cards as peripheral
                                                controllers. It would be
                                                pretty easy and could
                                                still run 8085 code and
                                                CPM.)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                                style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                                style="color:#1F497D">Will</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                                style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                            <div>
                                              <div
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                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b>
                                                  craig Andrews [<a
                                                    href="mailto:craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com</a>] <br>
                                                  <b>Sent:</b>
                                                  Wednesday, February
                                                  16, 2022 12:41 PM<br>
                                                  <b>To:</b> Will
                                                  Halphen &lt;<a
                                                    href="mailto:whalphen@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">whalphen@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                                  <b>Subject:</b> Re:
                                                  PLS-881<o:p></o:p></p>
                                              </div>
                                            </div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal">Hi
                                                Will,<o:p></o:p></p>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks
                                                for the update<o:p></o:p></p>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal">Yes,
                                                I noticed the serial
                                                version, it looks like
                                                the -73 version has a
                                                full UART and baud rate
                                                generator inside.  I
                                                read an AP note just a
                                                day or so ago that was
                                                dedicated to nested
                                                calls and I don’t think
                                                that will become a
                                                limiting factor.  As I
                                                read it, your version of
                                                the chips has the
                                                executable RAM in
                                                addition to the
                                                scratchpad.. so that is
                                                nice.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal">if I
                                                am reading everything
                                                right, your chips have
                                                light pull ups on the
                                                outputs (6k as I
                                                remember).  I am
                                                wondering if I should
                                                protect devices driving
                                                the input pin from
                                                contention since I am
                                                sure to mess up and
                                                output those as low bits
                                                sooner or later.  I
                                                guess I could drive the
                                                input pins with open
                                                collector, at first
                                                blush that looks like it
                                                would solve the problem.
                                                 Or I could put in a
                                                signal diode, I need to
                                                see what fits better
                                                after I start assigning
                                                pins.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal">I
                                                will ruminate on the
                                                design a but… I may slip
                                                the STD SBC-85 board in
                                                first.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal">The
                                                Mrs is having footwork
                                                done so she will be in
                                                dry-dock for several
                                                weeks and I will be her
                                                manservant—so the next
                                                couple of weeks will be
                                                full of interruptions
                                                whenever she rings her
                                                little call bell.
                                                 Things should free up
                                                in a few weeks, unless
                                                one of us kills the
                                                other I suppose.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal">Did I
                                                see you were looking for
                                                a Mostek SIO? I am
                                                pretty sure that I have
                                                one, but never found
                                                documentation and I
                                                haven’t bothered reverse
                                                capturing.   If I have
                                                one and you want it,
                                                it’s yours.  Or I have a
                                                prolog 7314 UART if you
                                                prefer but, again, I
                                                don’t think it has a
                                                schematic and haven’t
                                                gotten around to
                                                capturing one.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal">Best
                                                Regards<o:p></o:p></p>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal">Craig<o:p></o:p></p>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                              <blockquote
                                                style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On
                                                  Feb 16, 2022, at 9:01
                                                  AM, Will Halphen &lt;<a
href="mailto:whalphen@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext">whalphen@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                                                  wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
                                              </blockquote>
                                            </div>
                                            <blockquote
                                              style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                              <div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal">﻿<o:p></o:p></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:#1F497D">Craig,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:#1F497D">I’m ok with you mentioning my name on your
                                                    videos.  And OK with
                                                    you mentioning that
                                                    I obtained the chips
                                                    from some college
                                                    buddies who worked
                                                    at Mostek.  These
                                                    were commercially
                                                    available chips. 
                                                    I’ve been reading
                                                    about the MK38P70. 
                                                    It has some
                                                    interesting
                                                    features.  It has no
                                                    stack, but it has a
                                                    single level buffer
                                                    of the program
                                                    counter so a
                                                    subroutine can be
                                                    called.  However, if
                                                    you want to nest
                                                    subroutines, you
                                                    have to create and
                                                    maintain a stack. 
                                                    This is made easier
                                                    because of the
                                                    scratchpad RAM which
                                                    is accessible in a
                                                    single processor
                                                    cycle.  This F8
                                                    guide has a lot of
                                                    helpful information
                                                    and suggestions for
                                                    using this
                                                    processor. </span><a
href="http://www.bitsavers.org/components/fairchild/f8/67095664_F8_Guide_To_Programming_1976.pdf"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://www.bitsavers.org/components/fairchild/f8/67095664_F8_Guide_To_Programming_1976.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:#1F497D">There was another version of this chip that
                                                    included a serial
                                                    port.  I checked my
                                                    collection and I
                                                    think I have one of
                                                    those.  But it has
                                                    no printed markings,
                                                    only a hand written
                                                    part number in
                                                    pencil.  So it was
                                                    likely a chip used
                                                    for testing purposes
                                                    at Mostek.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:#1F497D">This LLL BASIC code seems to be setup for use with
                                                    the CPM BIOS.  It
                                                    has addresses
                                                    defined for several
                                                    drivers, such as
                                                    console in and
                                                    console out.  Of
                                                    course, if you don’t
                                                    want to use it with
                                                    CPM, the ROM just
                                                    needs to have
                                                    drivers for the
                                                    console and these
                                                    addresses need to be
                                                    changed to the
                                                    addresses of the
                                                    drivers in the ROM. 
                                                    LLL BASIC should
                                                    work with only the
                                                    console in and
                                                    console out
                                                    drivers.  So
                                                    redefine the driver
                                                    addresses in the
                                                    code, update the EQU
                                                    statements to define
                                                    the RAM location,
                                                    assemble it and load
                                                    it to EPROMs, and it
                                                    should run.  After
                                                    that you can modify
                                                    the code, add your
                                                    own keywords and
                                                    functions, and have
                                                    your own custom
                                                    version of BASIC.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:#1F497D">The tracking number for your package is
                                                    1Z1EE6650348537027
                                                    (UPS).  No need to
                                                    reimburse me for the
                                                    shipping.  I may
                                                    call on you someday
                                                    for some parts or
                                                    assistance.  I’m
                                                    just glad to have
                                                    these parts go to
                                                    someone who can do
                                                    something with them
                                                    – other than grind
                                                    them up for gold –
                                                    and potentially help
                                                    others to learn
                                                    about the evolution
                                                    of microprocessors.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:#1F497D">Will</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b>
                                                      <a
                                                        href="mailto:craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com</a>
                                                      [<a
                                                        href="mailto:craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com</a>] <br>
                                                      <b>Sent:</b>
                                                      Tuesday, February
                                                      15, 2022 9:06 PM<br>
                                                      <b>To:</b> 'Will
                                                      Halphen' &lt;<a
                                                        href="mailto:whalphen@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">whalphen@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                                      <b>Subject:</b>
                                                      RE: PLS-881<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                                <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal">Thank
                                                  you Will, again this
                                                  is very much
                                                  appreciated and let me
                                                  know how I can pay
                                                  back your generosity. 
                                                  It seems at least I
                                                  should pay for
                                                  shipping or send you
                                                  something I have that
                                                  you would like in
                                                  return.  Think STD or
                                                  Multibus and I
                                                  probably have
                                                  something you could
                                                  use.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal">I
                                                  appreciate the scans
                                                  of the schematics and
                                                  documentation, I will
                                                  go through them this
                                                  evening.  I have been
                                                  porting my confidence
                                                  test over to the 881
                                                  and stopped to make
                                                  some improvements, so
                                                  I have not gotten to
                                                  looking further at the
                                                  LLL basic project.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal">As
                                                  for the MK38P70 I
                                                  think I am settling in
                                                  to a system concept
                                                  for a first go around
                                                  and, as so often is
                                                  the case, I wound with
                                                  a clock.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal">Rather
                                                  than the TIL311 hex
                                                  displays, I am now
                                                  thinking of using
                                                  DL2416s.  Like the
                                                  TIL, they offer
                                                  aesthetics matching
                                                  the time period, but
                                                  they provide the full
                                                  alphanumeric set so in
                                                  addition to a clock it
                                                  can also be set up as
                                                  a scrolling text
                                                  display.  I am
                                                  thinking of 16 or 20
                                                  digits (4 or 5
                                                  displays).  4 displays
                                                  will fit on the 100mm
                                                  square $1 board but
                                                  having 5 displays and
                                                  up to a 5” wide $2
                                                  board will not break
                                                  the bank.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal">The
                                                  MC146818 real time
                                                  clock came out in the
                                                  early 80s, so I
                                                  planning to include it
                                                  on the board.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal">A
                                                  few switches with left
                                                  over input lines; and,<o:p></o:p></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal">A
                                                  serial port.  I would
                                                  really like to use a
                                                  MAX232 but it didn’t
                                                  come along until well
                                                  later so that leaves
                                                  me with either 5V
                                                  signal or using the
                                                  immortal 1488/1489 set
                                                  and supplying +/- 12V.
                                                    Sometimes I bend the
                                                  rules for convenience
                                                  so the MAX232 may win
                                                  out this time since
                                                  nothing else requires
                                                  the bipolar 12V.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal">Just
                                                  a barrel connector for
                                                  power in if I stick
                                                  with pure 5V.  the
                                                  DL2416s will pull more
                                                  than their share of
                                                  current.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal">I
                                                  will do an
                                                  introduction video to
                                                  gauge the level of
                                                  interest for sharing
                                                  the project, the
                                                  MK38P70 is a unique
                                                  enough platform to
                                                  draw some interest. 
                                                  Since the MK38P70 is a
                                                  gift from you and you
                                                  are the reason behind
                                                  the project, with your
                                                  permission I would
                                                  like to give some
                                                  background on where
                                                  the chips came from. 
                                                  Please let me know
                                                  what I can share…. Or
                                                  I can just say “my new
                                                  buddy Will sent me an
                                                  idea and some chips…”<o:p></o:p></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal">Best
                                                  regards<o:p></o:p></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal">Craig<o:p></o:p></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b>
                                                      Will Halphen &lt;<a
href="mailto:whalphen@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">whalphen@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                                                      <br>
                                                      <b>Sent:</b>
                                                      Tuesday, February
                                                      15, 2022 2:07 PM<br>
                                                      <b>To:</b> 'craig
                                                      Andrews' &lt;<a
                                                        href="mailto:craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                                      <b>Subject:</b>
                                                      PLS-881<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                                <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal">Craig,<o:p></o:p></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal">I’m
                                                  sending you a package
                                                  with the Prolog
                                                  PLS-881 and a
                                                  PLS-441.  I also
                                                  included a few of the
                                                  MK38P70 chips.  I
                                                  opened the PLS-881
                                                  package and scanned
                                                  the docs.  They are
                                                  attached.  You can
                                                  validate your reverse
                                                  engineering
                                                  schematic.  Also
                                                  attached is the
                                                  specification doc for
                                                  the PLS-441.  This is
                                                  the only technical
                                                  documentation I’ve
                                                  been able to find on
                                                  it.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal">Regards.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal">Will<o:p></o:p></p>
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