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On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 07:49:34 PM GMT-5, craig@sbc-85.com wrote: =20 =20 =20 Hi Fred,=20 =C2=A0 here is the bare board list.=C2=A0 the backplane and port prototyping board= are only in TIN.=C2=A0 You would only need one bus monitor LED jig since i= t is not a consumable. I looked and I have never actually tested the I2C board which is why it isn= =E2=80=99t listed on tindie.=C2=A0 I am pretty sure I have some.=C2=A0 I wi= ll just toss one in and you can let me know how it goes. this would all fit in a small or medium usps flat rate box, so $10 for ship= ping. =C2=A0 if you use paypal direct w/o tindie, it saves the $5.43 and total would be = $103.23 =C2=A0 regards Craig =C2=A0 |=20 | |=20 tin |=20 enig | | |=20 backplane |=20 3 |=20 $3.00 |=20 (TIN) | |=20 SBC-85 |=20 3 |=20 $9.00 | | |=20 bus monitor |=20 5 |=20 $12.00 | | |=20 bus monitor LED jig |=20 3 | | | |=20 protoboard - bus |=20 3 |=20 $9.50 | | |=20 protoboard port |=20 3 |=20 $3.00 |=20 (TIN) | |=20 memory expansion |=20 5 |=20 $9.00 | | |=20 cassette Interface |=20 3 |=20 $9.00 | | |=20 SPIO |=20 3 |=20 $10.00 | | |=20 SPIO-I2C | | | | | |=20 31 |=20 $64.50 | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |=20 $95.50 | | | |=20 shipping |=20 $10.00 | | | |=20 subtotal |=20 $105.50 | | | |=20 paypal |=20 $3.17 | | | |=20 tindie total |=20 $108.67 | | | |=20 tindie fee |=20 -$5.43 | | | |=20 no tindie total |=20 $103.23 | | |=20 =C2=A0 |=20 =C2=A0 |=20 =C2=A0 | |=20 =C2=A0 |=20 =C2=A0 |=20 =C2=A0 |=20 =C2=A0 | |=20 =C2=A0 |=20 =C2=A0 |=20 =C2=A0 |=20 =C2=A0 | |=20 =C2=A0 |=20 =C2=A0 |=20 =C2=A0 |=20 =C2=A0 | |=20 =C2=A0 |=20 =C2=A0 |=20 =C2=A0 |=20 =C2=A0 | |=20 =C2=A0 |=20 =C2=A0 |=20 =C2=A0 |=20 =C2=A0 | |=20 =C2=A0 |=20 =C2=A0 |=20 =C2=A0 |=20 =C2=A0 | |=20 =C2=A0 |=20 =C2=A0 |=20 =C2=A0 |=20 =C2=A0 | |=20 =C2=A0 |=20 =C2=A0 |=20 =C2=A0 |=20 =C2=A0 | |=20 =C2=A0 |=20 =C2=A0 |=20 =C2=A0 |=20 =C2=A0 | |=20 =C2=A0 |=20 =C2=A0 |=20 =C2=A0 |=20 =C2=A0 | |=20 =C2=A0 |=20 =C2=A0 |=20 =C2=A0 |=20 =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 =C2=A0 From: SBC-85 =20 Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2023 8:13 PM To: Fred van Kempen Subject: Re: ping, no r0b0t =C2=A0 Hi Fred, =C2=A0 To the extent possible, I have given up on surface mount. Just too small fo= r my liking. I already have to use head magnifiers most of the time. =C2=A0 You have a nice collection of boards, perhaps you will want to extend the S= BC-85 bus to include some of your own boards if you think of something that= is missing. =C2=A0People are always asking for some sort of video output o= r disk controller, but neither of those appeal to me much. =C2=A0 PALs and GALs are just more trouble than they are worth for this scale of b= oard and the user base. =C2=A0Like you said, it is one more hurdle to get o= ver and there is not an obscene amount of glue logic required. Yes, it woul= d be easy to compress more in the same size or offer more features. I just = didn=E2=80=99t want to go there. =C2=A0 I have one of those HP 8085 trainers, not a bad bit of kit actually. =C2=A0= I prefer the SDK-85 but even there the monitor could have been improved. I = run a better monitor on mine and it makes it a nice little tool. =C2=A0 As for the website, I never really intended on this to take off and Wordpre= ss was an easy way to start. I understand where you are coming from. I keep= thinking I will have the time to move over to GitHub or something similar,= but that hasn=E2=80=99t happened yet. =C2=A0I will see if I can at least c= lean it up a bit. =C2=A0 I will get these together and price out, option for one gold set if I have = them.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Let me know of any problems you find in the manuals, BOMs, or software. =C2=A0 Regards =C2=A0 Craig =C2=A0 =C2=A0 On Feb 26, 2023, at 4:53 PM, Fred van Kempen wrote: =EF=BB=BF Hi! =C2=A0 See attached, forgot.. just some of the smaller ones I did over the years.= =C2=A0 I like doing PTH, as most people can (still) do that.=C2=A0 SMT makes for smaller boards and more functional= ity, but, as you know, your customers will bitch :) =C2=A0 Anyway. =C2=A0 STD is not my thing. I know about it, of course, but never did anything wit= h it.=C2=A0 For the 8bit stuff, I dont think one needs anything more than "just" the (demuxed) CPU bus- even thoug= h that somewhat locks you into that (family of) the CPU.=C2=A0 I do like how your boards use buff= ers; something (else) I missed in the Glitch stuff. =C2=A0 Now, here's a thought.=C2=A0 How come only Sergey's boards use a programmab= le device (GAL, in this case) for combining a load of the glue logic?=C2=A0 OK, yes, that makes you= dependent on another "hard" (for some) chip, but it makes things cleaner, and smaller.=C2=A0 I think th= e address decoding stuff (for the RAM and ROM selects, but also for a "block" of I/O selects), and even a lit= tle bank switcher, would be a great addition? =C2=A0 > Ordering through tindie is easy, but ordering direct and using PayPal get= s a 5% discount. I have several not-so-great experiences with Tindie, including very recentl= y.=C2=A0 So, yes, I'd prefer to do a direct buy from you.=C2=A0 You can keep the discount. =C2=A0 > I just noticed that I don=E2=80=99t have my new MCS-85+ minimum system on= tindie, Yeah, I saw the write-up.=C2=A0 Heheh.=C2=A0 Last night I remembered that I= *have* done something with the 8085 in the past- when I was in school (uni, 1985) they dropped that HP sui= tcase on my desk, with a lab manual.=C2=A0 Ugh.=C2=A0 I later ripped out the 8085 board (and dumpe= d it) as I wanted the suitcase :P =C2=A0 > Let me know what systems you are interested in starting and what question= s you have. Oh, I have various 8085 boards now, just to play around with, and to look a= t how they are all different in their design.=C2=A0 I liked Glitch's stacking mode, but dont l= ike his board designs and the no-buffering.=C2=A0 I liked your cassette board (first thing I saw about yo= ur projects, haha!) and then I noticed the buffering, the VDU board, etc.=C2=A0 Sergey's stuff (I have a l= ot of his stuff) is nice in yet other ways. =C2=A0 > I presume you have found the users manuals and example source code on the= project site. Yeah.=C2=A0 I have to be honest - I seriously dislike your site.=C2=A0 Or, = no- I dislike Wordpress, and I do not like how that forces certain things.=C2=A0 These days, developers use a sim= ple site that links directly to github repos where the "stuff" is at.=C2=A0 Easy to clone/fork and then = keep updated, etc.=C2=A0=20 =C2=A0 > Let me know where it can be improved. I did not like having to go through each "product" page, then dip into the = "downloadables" for it, click DOWNLOAD within each, and so on.=C2=A0 That is a typical Wordpres= s flow.=C2=A0 I would prefer these files to be either directly clickable, or, the more modern approach, = have them in a repo, with one repo per product.=C2=A0 Also allows the customer to keep an eye on= updates and so on. =C2=A0 > Also I tend to leave placeholders on the website and then forget to go ba= ck and finish.=C2=A0 I did see several mentions of products in the writeups (the spio_i2c comes = to mind) that exist, or did, but nothing else is there.=C2=A0 I also see products (bus proto and= io proto) that apparently have falled off.=C2=A0 That could be cleaned up, either way. =C2=A0 Ordering.=C2=A0 I have a habit of ordering a complete set of things, so: =C2=A0 - backplane - cpu - bus monitor - bus proto - mem exp - cassette - spio - spio_i2c - io proto =C2=A0 as far as they are available. Not sure if the 'proto' ones are, for example= .=C2=A0 Ideally, I would=20 like full-parts kits (most of my stuff is still packed up because I could n= ot use it for 2+ years) but not sure if you have those.=C2=A0 I would like 2 boards of each (one to= build, one to keep as-is) and, if you can give me a good deal, gold-plated would be preferred for at = least one set of boards. =C2=A0 Please advise. =C2=A0 Regards, =C2=A0 Fred =C2=A0 =20 ------=_Part_1042372_1579634119.1677545801263 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
What are the "3" and "5" num= bers?  Number of boards?
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On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 07:49:34 PM GMT-5, crai= g@sbc-85.com <craig@sbc-85.com> wrote:


Hi Fred,

=  

here is the bare b= oard list.  the backplane and port prototyping board are only in TIN.&= nbsp; You would only need one bus monitor LED jig since it is not a consuma= ble.

I looked and I have = never actually tested the I2C board which is why it isn=E2=80=99t listed on= tindie.  I am pretty sure I have some.  I will just toss one in = and you can let me know how it goes.

this would all fit in a small or medium usps flat rate box, so = $10 for shipping.

 =

if you use paypal direct= w/o tindie, it saves the $5.43 and total would be $103.23

 

regards

= Craig

 

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From: SBC-85= <craig@sbc-85.com>
Sent: Sunday, February = 26, 2023 8:13 PM
To: Fred van Kempen <decwiz@ya= hoo.com>
Subject: Re: ping, no r0b0t

<= /div>

 

Hi Fred,

 

To the extent possible, I have given up on sur= face mount. Just too small for my liking. I already have to use head magnif= iers most of the time.

 

You have a nice collection of boards, perhaps you will want to extend th= e SBC-85 bus to include some of your own boards if you think of something t= hat is missing.  People are always asking for some sort of video outpu= t or disk controller, but neither of those appeal to me much.

 

PALs and GALs are just more troub= le than they are worth for this scale of board and the user base.  Lik= e you said, it is one more hurdle to get over and there is not an obscene a= mount of glue logic required. Yes, it would be easy to compress more in the= same size or offer more features. I just didn=E2=80=99t want to go there.<= /p>

 

I have one of those = HP 8085 trainers, not a bad bit of kit actually.  I prefer the SDK-85 = but even there the monitor could have been improved. I run a better monitor= on mine and it makes it a nice little tool.

 

As for the website, I never really intended on thi= s to take off and Wordpress was an easy way to start. I understand where yo= u are coming from. I keep thinking I will have the time to move over to Git= Hub or something similar, but that hasn=E2=80=99t happened yet.  I wil= l see if I can at least clean it up a bit.

 

I will get these together and price out, option for = one gold set if I have them. 

 

Let me know of any problems you find in the manuals, BOMs, o= r software.

&= nbsp;

Regards<= /p>

 

Craig

=

 

 



On Feb 26= , 2023, at 4:53 PM, Fred van Kempen <decwiz@yahoo.com>= wrote:

=EF=BB= =BF

Hi!

 

See attached, forgot.. just some of the smaller ones I did over th= e years.  I like doing PTH, as most people

can (still) do that.  SMT makes for smaller boa= rds and more functionality, but, as you know, your customers

will bitch :)

 

Anyway.

 

STD is not my thing. I kno= w about it, of course, but never did anything with it.  For the 8bit s= tuff, I dont

think one ne= eds anything more than "just" the (demuxed) CPU bus- even though that somew= hat locks

you into that (= family of) the CPU.  I do like how your boards use buffers; something = (else) I missed in

the Gl= itch stuff.

 

Now, here's a thought.  = How come only Sergey's boards use a programmable device (GAL, in this

case) for combining a load of= the glue logic?  OK, yes, that makes you dependent on another "hard"<= /span>

(for some) chip, but it m= akes things cleaner, and smaller.  I think the address decoding stuff = (for the

RAM and ROM sele= cts, but also for a "block" of I/O selects), and even a little bank switche= r, would

be a great addit= ion?

 

> Ordering through tindie is easy,= but ordering direct and using PayPal gets a 5% discount.

<= div>

I have several not-so-great experiences wi= th Tindie, including very recently.  So, yes, I'd prefer to

=

do a direct buy from you.  You= can keep the discount.

=  

> I just noticed that= I don=E2=80=99t have my new MCS-85+ minimum system on tindie,

Yeah, I saw the write-up.  Heheh= .  Last night I remembered that I *have* done something with the

8085 in the past- when I was = in school (uni, 1985) they dropped that HP suitcase on my desk, with=

a lab manual.  Ugh. = ; I later ripped out the 8085 board (and dumped it) as I wanted the suitcas= e :P

 

> Let me know what systems you are= interested in starting and what questions you have.

<= p class=3D"ydp1d06e90cyiv0752267181MsoNormal">Oh, I have various 8085 boards now, just to pla= y around with, and to look at how they are all

different in their design.  I liked Glitch's sta= cking mode, but dont like his board designs and the

no-buffering.  I liked your cassette board = (first thing I saw about your projects, haha!) and then I

<= div>

noticed the buffering, the VDU board, etc.=   Sergey's stuff (I have a lot of his stuff) is nice in yet

=

other ways.

 

> I presume you have found the users manuals and example= source code on the project site.

Yeah.  I have to be honest - I seriously dislike your site.&n= bsp; Or, no- I dislike Wordpress, and I do not

like how that forces certain things.  These days= , developers use a simple site that links directly

to github repos where the "stuff" is at.  Ea= sy to clone/fork and then keep updated, etc. 

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> Let me know wh= ere it can be improved.

I did not like having to go through each "product" page, then dip= into the "downloadables" for

it, click DOWNLOAD within each, and so on.  That is a = typical Wordpress flow.  I would prefer

these files to be either directly clickable,= or, the more modern approach, have them in a repo,

with one repo per product.  Als= o allows the customer to keep an eye on updates and so on.

 

> Also I tend to leave placeholde= rs on the website and then forget to go back and finish. 

I did see several mentions= of products in the writeups (the spio_i2c comes to mind) that exist,

or did, but nothing= else is there.  I also see products (bus proto and io proto) that app= arently

have f= alled off.  That could be cleaned up, either way.

 

Ordering.  I have a habit of orderi= ng a complete set of things, so:

 

- backplane

- cpu

- bus monitor

- bus proto

- mem exp

- c= assette

- spio=

- spio_i2c

- io proto

 

as far as they are availa= ble. Not sure if the 'proto' ones are, for example.  Ideally, I would =

like full-par= ts kits (most of my stuff is still packed up because I could not use it for= 2+ years)

but= not sure if you have those.  I would like 2 boards of each (one to bu= ild, one to keep as-is)

and, if you can give me a good deal, gold-plated would be preferr= ed for at least one set of

boards.

 

Please advise.

 

Rega= rds,

 

Fred

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