Return-Path: Delivered-To: craig@sbc-85.com Received: from gator4254.hostgator.com by gator4254.hostgator.com with LMTP id UKQSKwv/9WOuOwUAcizydQ (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2023 05:39:55 -0600 Return-path: Envelope-to: craig@sbc-85.com Delivery-date: Wed, 22 Feb 2023 05:39:55 -0600 Received: from mail-wr1-f50.google.com ([209.85.221.50]:37767) by gator4254.hostgator.com with esmtps (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.95) (envelope-from ) id 1pUnTX-001YAs-52 for craig@sbc-85.com; Wed, 22 Feb 2023 05:39:55 -0600 Received: by mail-wr1-f50.google.com with SMTP id o4so7419158wrs.4 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2023 03:39:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=m6+BLL4VTUiEwy6bpZY/+T0XyYgZ/5WsSIcHe6Exzdc=; b=OHD8rmSzoxelCml8G5FNwL+sSi19qBwWK89hB3msONmF4CYgJ1z+Pd3Q5K1JGYTO6R 4iNJTw3uGJ+V+Vc7tyo3YgGj0mSIcWZPhJWYQXLoguwy6ClfQEJ5h5N4tHlP/YeWasma LXygGdHIOZPTp4fP5HrgNCjm/qLI1oue1Qa2iNNucFq4luqVR3vIJdmXHW6SfpFYnmsI KLA7UNg4xXPLbRn5UA4eXPnonvey8WP7UzLplhGbBZWEhcqEfc5VPCqQIRlb5cV8AHoK k5wb8CsE7fKzxDG+SlKfig1vtKb9u9VJOT3Yiu01pRiBn+g0N0nf0gsPR2X/lUW2WA4R T5nA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=m6+BLL4VTUiEwy6bpZY/+T0XyYgZ/5WsSIcHe6Exzdc=; b=vizL36RlRBMgP7+vT2hrX2APpMGrpAeyob4mBYR8Savhh/noGdQIwG71R2gxsolILP oCbMXv6s23ChgJEnIDIJhkZzFPgsfe8YDpauzjpsnhVq8LXWlfuOzpHFy/g2tuoLDEm1 GZutBS71Oqpz9r/z0q1vZnqdSLf1RpidOanoO8GhNgm14DSUwAB3GRd2u3nawV+OwKPY q1pooajDP08FdME1EW0l1PpgZ8JvrIT3D8NrpnVE9pm0kKUirkIbiLQo4Ok8jnLpblaz kHNnV3GKoZrtmch8QXVpiDZ8SH6JPnQ6yidJ2gk4wQqAfFIOL2rjYLXpvAQqbXuxaLYn rQgA== X-Gm-Message-State: AO0yUKVlTKHiY7dwnrczKFciFKfquEluJEGR3ONYY6dsskjOCS/fS/fg BZSxdSCiDtQen+1aTIpN2yHnCEPb8bzvj5eGah4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AK7set+J3lEXpMYD4N3VKvn3+GEZ3Rq8YqCv1ogS47j4zSOcIo9dOvOSELJP67QDkMRL2Ry1Xgp4rH8HJj3Y1/uuWWI= X-Received: by 2002:adf:f741:0:b0:2c5:585d:ea49 with SMTP id z1-20020adff741000000b002c5585dea49mr138719wrp.239.1677065983557; Wed, 22 Feb 2023 03:39:43 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <16be01d94636$fb0f4300$f12dc900$@sbc-85.com> In-Reply-To: From: Jon Hales Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2023 11:39:33 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Lightbulb!!! To: Sid Jones Cc: SBC-85 , Mattis Lind Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000003704b805f5485a6d" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 X-Spam-Score: -1 X-Spam-Bar: / X-Spam-Flag: NO --0000000000003704b805f5485a6d Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable *** Please ignore if this message if the 4040 is of no interest. *** The PE CHAMP was a Do It Yourself project based on a 4040. It was published in Practical Electronics from September 1977 to June 1978. As well as a CPU board and keyboard, the project included a programmer and eraser for the 1702A. I have extracted the pages and placed them in a PDF file at this link (the OCR file is smaller): https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1kWH3969a2SbI1hRJqRl8w7TZCWA3OTVb?us= p=3Dshare_link Regards Jon On Wed, 22 Feb 2023 at 09:19, Jon Hales wrote: > Sid, cc Craig and Mattis > > I noticed that Al Kossow copied his reply to Dwight Elvey. > > As I noted, Dwight has been promoting the 4004/4040 on the VCF forum for > many years. These can be found by searching with MCS-4, 4004, 4040, etc = - > Dwight posts on various topics, so the haystack could be large if you tri= ed > to search his username. > > I'm one of the postings there's a link to a github project with > (reconstruction, I think of) an assembler by Tom Pittman, who was also th= e > author of Tiny Basic. > > Here's that link (but that seems to be code for SIM-01 EPROMs): > > https://github.com/prog4004/I4004-projects/tree/master/EPROM4004 > > The thread is in introductions and has the heading 'I am Dalmas'. > > There's also a comment about a 4004-based DIY project published in the UK > magazine Practical Electronics, starting on October 1977 and running to > June 1978. It might be worthwhile to check out whether that included any > code. > > Regards > > Jon > > On Wed, 22 Feb 2023 at 09:06, Sid Jones > wrote: > >> Yes. I received a reply today. >> >> Fingers crossed that they don=E2=80=99t want mega-bucks for the work... >> >> Regards >> >> Sid >> >> *From:* SBC-85 >> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 21, 2023 11:39 PM >> *To:* Jon Hales ; Sid Jones >> >> *Cc:* Mattis Lind >> *Subject:* Re: Lightbulb!!! >> >> I think an answer from the Victoria museum is imminent. They replied t= o >> my request and said they are working on a previous request for the exact >> same thing. There will likely be a charge to get this digitized. >> >> On Feb 21, 2023, at 12:56 PM, craig@sbc-85.com wrote: >> >> =EF=BB=BF >> >> I have also sent a request to a couple of people who are local to >> Melbourne (builders of some of my hardware) in hopes of having a local >> advocate will help. >> >> >> >> that intellect 4 is a beautiful machine. I hope it is being well cared >> for and a shame that it=E2=80=99s technical documentation and tapes hasn= =E2=80=99t floated >> up to the surface. The living computer museum in seattle was horrible >> about that. they would get something rare and stash it away and then no= t >> share any technical documentation or hardware information. >> >> >> >> regards >> >> >> >> craig >> >> >> >> *From:* Jon Hales >> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 21, 2023 12:47 PM >> *To:* Sid Jones >> *Cc:* Mattis Lind ; SBC-85 >> *Subject:* Re: Lightbulb!!! >> >> >> >> Sid (cc Craig and Mattis) >> >> >> >> I've just copied to you a message I sent to Al Kossow, regarding MCS-8 >> 8008 assembler documents at the Computer History Museum. >> >> >> >> Two other resources you may be interested to search are: >> >> >> >> * https://bytecollector.com/m8_docs.htm >> >> >> >> * https://www.8008chron.com/ (Note the links at the bottom of the page) >> >> >> >> Further 8008 resources are associated with the Scelbi computer and Mark >> 8. The person I mentioned (at Preston, UK) who has a functional Teletype >> machine also has a working Mark 8. >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> Jon >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, 21 Feb 2023 at 16:25, Sid Jones >> wrote: >> >> When I was first looking for intellec 4 mod 40 resources, I found a >> reference to a Bonhams sale... >> >> >> >> >> https://www.bonhams.com/auction/24898/lot/628/intel-intellec-4-mod-40-4-= bit-microcomputer-1975-metal-case-with-hinged-top-and-magnetic-closures/ >> >> >> >> Idly scanning through it a moment ago, due to wondering what was sold, e= h >> voila! Assorted paper tapes... >> >> >> >> I wonder if the lucky buyer got the assembler? >> >> >> >> I=E2=80=99m going to send an email to the sale guy, Adam Stackhouse and = see if he >> can link us up with the purchaser! >> >> >> >> (There may be the possibility of contacting intellec 8 and 8 mod 80 >> purchasers...) >> >> >> >> Fingers crossed! >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> Sid >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --0000000000003704b805f5485a6d Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
*** Please ignore if this message if the 4040 is of n= o interest. ***

The PE CHAMP was a Do It Yourself p= roject based on a 4040. It was published in Practical Electronics from Sept= ember 1977 to June 1978. As well as a CPU board and keyboard, the project i= ncluded a programmer and eraser for the 1702A.

I have ex= tracted the pages and placed them in a PDF file at this link (the OCR file = is smaller):




=
Regards

Jon

On Wed, 22 Feb 2023 = at 09:19, Jon Hales <jonhales@gmail.com> wrote:
Sid, cc Craig and Mattis

I noticed that Al Kossow copied his reply to Dwight Elvey.=C2=A0

As I noted, Dwight has been promoting the 4004/4040= on the VCF forum for many years.=C2=A0 These can be found by searching wit= h MCS-4, 4004, 4040, etc - Dwight posts on various topics, so the haystack = could be large if you tried to search his username.

I'm one of the postings there's a link to a github project with (= reconstruction, I think of) an assembler by Tom Pittman, who was also the a= uthor of Tiny Basic.

Here's that link (but tha= t seems to be code for SIM-01 EPROMs):


The thread is= in introductions and has the heading 'I am Dalmas'.

=
There's also a comment about a 4004-based DIY project publis= hed in the UK magazine Practical Electronics, starting on October 1977 and = running to June 1978. It might be worthwhile to check out whether that incl= uded any code.

Regards

Jo= n

On Wed, 22 Feb 2023 at 09:06, Sid Jones <jonesthechip@logicmagic.co.uk> wrote:
Yes. I received a reply today.
=C2=A0
Fingers crossed that they don=E2=80=99t want mega-bucks for the work..= .
=C2=A0
Regards
=C2=A0
Sid
=C2=A0
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2023 11:39 PM
Subject: Re: Lightbulb!!!
=C2=A0
I think an answer from the Victoria museum is imminent.=C2= =A0=C2=A0=20 They replied to my request and said they are working on a previous request = for=20 the exact same thing. There will likely be a charge to get this digitized.= =20

On Feb 21, 2023, at 12:56 PM, craig@sbc-85.com=20 wrote:

=EF=BB=BF=20 =20 =20

I have also sent a request to a couple of people w= ho are=20 local to Melbourne (builders of some of my hardware) in hopes of having a= =20 local advocate will help.

=C2=A0

that intellect 4 is a beautiful machine. I hope it= is being=20 well cared for and a shame that it=E2=80=99s technical documentation and = tapes hasn=E2=80=99t=20 floated up to the surface.=C2=A0 The living computer museum in seattle wa= s=20 horrible about that.=C2=A0 they would get something rare and stash it awa= y and=20 then not share any technical documentation or hardware=20 information.

=C2=A0

regards

=C2=A0

craig

=C2=A0

From: Jon Hales <jonhales@gmail.com>=20
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2023 12:47 PM
To: Sid Jo= nes=20 <jo= nesthechip@logicmagic.co.uk>
Cc: Mattis Lind=20 <mattislind@= gmail.com>; SBC-85=20 <craig@sbc-85.co= m>
Subject: Re:=20 Lightbulb!!!

=C2=A0

Sid (cc Craig and Mattis)

=C2=A0

I've just copied to you a message I sent to Al= Kossow,=20 regarding MCS-8 8008 assembler documents at the Computer History=20 Museum.

=C2=A0

Two other resources you may be interested to searc= h=20 are:

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

* https://www.8008chron.com/ (Note the=20 links at the bottom of the page)

=C2=A0

Further 8008 resources are associated with the Sce= lbi=20 computer and Mark 8. The person I mentioned (at Preston, UK) who has a=20 functional Teletype machine also has a working Mark 8.

<= /div>

=C2=A0

Regards

=C2=A0

Jon

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

On Tue, 21 Feb 2023 at 16:25, Sid Jones <jonesthechip@l= ogicmagic.co.uk>=20 wrote:

When = I was=20 first looking for intellec 4 mod 40 resources, I found a reference to a= =20 Bonhams sale...

=C2= =A0

=C2= =A0

Idly = scanning=20 through it a moment ago, due to wondering what was sold, eh voila! Asso= rted=20 paper tapes...

=C2= =A0

I won= der if=20 the lucky buyer got the assembler?

=C2= =A0

I=E2= =80=99m going to=20 send an email to the sale guy, Adam Stackhouse and see if he can link u= s up=20 with the purchaser!

=C2= =A0

(Ther= e may be=20 the possibility of contacting intellec 8 and 8 mod 80=20 purchasers...)

=C2= =A0

Finge= rs=20 crossed!

=C2= =A0

Regar= ds

=C2= =A0

Sid

=C2= =A0

=C2= =A0

=C2= =A0

=C2= =A0

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