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Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2022 23:12:20 -0800
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">It s=
hould say in the source code. Pretty sure it is no parity. 2400-8-1-N</div><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On D=
ec 19, 2022, at 9:55 PM, Michael Kamprath &lt;michael@kamprath.net&gt; wrote=
:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=
=BF<meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">=
Craig,<div><br></div><div>So, I got the SBC 8085 build and the 8755 programm=
ed successfully with the for 2K bytes of your MON85.hex file. However, I can=
=E2=80=99t quite figure out the serial settings. I have the 6.144 MHz crysta=
l, and I have tried 2400 baud 8-1-E serial connection, but all I get is gibb=
erish. I=E2=80=99ve varied around those settings and not quite getting someo=
ne legible when I reset the computer. Something is coming across, so I am gu=
ess I I have my serial settings wrong. What are you using for serial setting=
s?</div><div><br></div><div>Michael Kamprath</div><div><br><div><br><blockqu=
ote type=3D"cite"><div>On Nov 24, 2022, at 6:50 PM, craig@sbc-85.com wrote:<=
/div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta charset=3D"UTF-8"><d=
iv class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0=
, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-vari=
ant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: star=
t; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing=
: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style=3D=
"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p>&nbsp=
;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibr=
i, sans-serif;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div><div><div style=3D"border-style: soli=
d none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); pa=
dding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family=
: Calibri, sans-serif;"><b>From:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&n=
bsp;</span>Michael Kamprath &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michael@kamprath.net" styl=
e=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">michael@kamprath.net</a>&gt;<=
span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br><b>Sent:</b><span clas=
s=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Thursday, November 24, 2022 2:14 PM=
<br><b>To:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a href=3D"=
mailto:craig@sbc-85.com" style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">=
craig@sbc-85.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"=
>&nbsp;</span>Re: MCS-85 minimum system board<o:p></o:p></div></div></div><d=
iv style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-fam=
ily: Calibri, sans-serif;">Thanks!<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style=3D"margin=
: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>=
</div></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Ca=
libri, sans-serif;">A couple more questions:<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div=
 style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div><ul type=3D"disc" style=3D"margin-bottom: 0=
in;"><li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-fam=
ily: Calibri, sans-serif;">The board layout image in the user manual makes i=
t clear that the JP5 is not a normal 2.54 mm pitch jumper. Could you provide=
 some more details on its dimensions?<o:p></o:p></li><li class=3D"MsoNormal"=
 style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">D=
iode D2 is not specified in the user manual. Would it be a simple&nbsp;1N414=
8 general purpose diode?<o:p></o:p></li></ul><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in;=
 font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div>=
</div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,=
 sans-serif;">Happy Thanksgiving!<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"m=
argin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-famil=
y: Calibri, sans-serif;">Michael<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"ma=
rgin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p>&nbsp;</=
o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family=
: Calibri, sans-serif;"><br><br><o:p></o:p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin=
-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" type=3D"cite"><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in=
; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">On Nov 23, 2022, at 5:=
19 PM, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:craig@sbc-85.com" style=3D"color: blue; text-de=
coration: underline;">craig@sbc-85.com</a>&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:craig@s=
bc-85.com" style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">craig@sbc-85.c=
om</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></div></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size=
: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div><div><div>=
<div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif=
;">blast, I ordered the wrong footprint.&nbsp; the correct footprint is SOT-=
753 (SOT-25)&nbsp; digikey 74AHCT1G04W5-7DICT-ND<o:p></o:p></div></div><div>=
<div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif=
;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 1=
1pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><d=
iv style=3D"border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top=
-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div><div style=3D"margin=
: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><b>From:</b><span=
 class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>SBC-85 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:c=
raig@sbc-85.com" style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">craig@sb=
c-85.com</a>&gt;<span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br><b>Se=
nt:</b><span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Wednesday, Novembe=
r 23, 2022 12:06 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp=
;</span>Michael Kamprath &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michael@kamprath.net" style=3D=
"color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">michael@kamprath.net</a>&gt;<br><=
b>Subject:</b><span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: MCS-85 m=
inimum system board<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div><div><div style=3D"mar=
gin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">&nbsp;<o:p></o=
:p></div></div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-fa=
mily: Calibri, sans-serif;">Hi Michael<o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div=
><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-seri=
f;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; f=
ont-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Yes, the 8185-2 is a sele=
cted higher speed version if you are running a 8085AH-2 CPU at full speed. &=
nbsp; Are you F8 ding the -2 version to be more readily available? Makes sen=
se since they are the most recent version. I am not sure what versions I hav=
e since I am only running the slower 8085A. &nbsp;The monitor serial delays a=
re for 6.144MHz crystal (2400 baud). &nbsp;I need to add all of that to the u=
sers manual.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div><div style=3D"margi=
n: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p=
></div></div></div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; fon=
t-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">I have not tested the little inverter, I thi=
nk I have some on order and an test this week. &nbsp;The ones I ordered are S=
OT353 and I presume I ordered the correct ones. &nbsp;I should know in the c=
oming days when my Digi-Key order arrives. &nbsp;Adding that inverter to all=
ow the 8155 was an afterthought so not much thought was put into it.&nbsp;<o=
:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 1=
1pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div></div><=
div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, s=
ans-serif;">Regards<o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div><div style=3D"marg=
in: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:=
p></div></div></div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; fo=
nt-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Craig<o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div=
><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-seri=
f;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; f=
ont-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></=
div></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" type=3D=
"cite"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 11pt=
; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">On Nov 22, 2022, at 11:22 PM, Michael K=
amprath &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michael@kamprath.net" style=3D"color: blue; te=
xt-decoration: underline;">michael@kamprath.net</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p=
></blockquote></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt=
;" type=3D"cite"><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-=
family: Calibri, sans-serif;">=EF=BB=BFThanks!<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><d=
iv><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-se=
rif;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in=
; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Got some questions:<o:=
p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11=
pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div></div><d=
iv><ul type=3D"disc" style=3D"margin-bottom: 0in; margin-top: 0in;"><li clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,=
 sans-serif;">What is the footprint of the&nbsp;74AHCT1G04? I see it can com=
e in a number of different packages (including SOT-23, SOT-25, and SOT-353).=
<o:p></o:p></li><li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11p=
t; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">For the retro chips, I cannot find the=
&nbsp;8185. Instead, I can find a P8185-2. I am assuming that it=E2=80=99s a=
 faster version, but I thought I=E2=80=99d check first.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>=
<div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, s=
ans-serif;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div><div style=3D"margi=
n: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Michael Kamprath=
<o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size:=
 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div></div=
><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,=
 sans-serif;"><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></div></div><blockquote style=3D"margin=
-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" type=3D"cite"><div><div><div style=3D"margin=
: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">On Nov 22, 2022, a=
t 6:33 PM, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:craig@sbc-85.com" style=3D"color: blue; tex=
t-decoration: underline;">craig@sbc-85.com</a>&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cra=
ig@sbc-85.com" style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">craig@sbc-=
85.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin:=
 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p><=
/div></div><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-f=
amily: Calibri, sans-serif;">Michael,<o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div>=
<div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif=
;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; f=
ont-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">I have uploaded a first v=
ersion of the user=E2=80=99s manual and the current version of the resident m=
onitor to the project site.&nbsp; please let me know if they are not there, m=
istakes, etc.<o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0i=
n; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></di=
v></div></div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-fam=
ily: Calibri, sans-serif;">thanks<o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div><div=
 style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">&=
nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-=
size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">craig<o:p></o:p></div></div><=
/div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Cali=
bri, sans-serif;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div style=3D"bord=
er-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225,=
 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font=
-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><b>From:</b><span class=3D"a=
pple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Michael Kamprath &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mi=
chael@kamprath.net" style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">micha=
el@kamprath.net</a>&gt;<span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b=
r><b>Sent:</b><span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Monday, Nov=
ember 21, 2022 6:49 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&n=
bsp;</span>SBC-85 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:craig@sbc-85.com" style=3D"color: bl=
ue; text-decoration: underline;">craig@sbc-85.com</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b>=
<span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: MCS-85 minimum system=
 board<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div></div><div><div><div style=3D"margi=
n: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p=
></div></div></div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; fon=
t-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Cool, thanks. No hurry, I have plenty of oth=
er projects I am juggling.<o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div><div><div s=
tyle=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0=
in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Michael<o:p></o:p></=
div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 1=
1pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div></div><=
div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif;"><br><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></div></div></div><blockquote st=
yle=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" type=3D"cite"><div><div><div><d=
iv style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
>On Nov 21, 2022, at 6:47 PM, SBC-85 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:craig@sbc-85.com"=
 style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">craig@sbc-85.com</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0i=
n; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></di=
v></div></div><div><div><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size:=
 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Hi Michael, yea that was a placeho=
lder. I need to do the BOM for the MCS-85+. &nbsp;I need to do a little bit o=
f a manual too and upload the current version of the monitor. &nbsp;Hopefull=
y in the next couple of days, but I keep falling back to trying to fit in th=
e disassembler command.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div><div><div><d=
iv><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-se=
rif;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div style=3D"=
margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">I will let y=
ou know as I get things uploaded.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div><d=
iv><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibr=
i, sans-serif;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div=
 style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">R=
egards<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin=
: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p>=
</div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size:=
 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Craig<o:p></o:p></div></div></div>=
</div><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family=
: Calibri, sans-serif;"><br><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></div></div></div><blockq=
uote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" type=3D"cite"><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Cal=
ibri, sans-serif;">On Nov 21, 2022, at 6:25 PM, Michael Kamprath &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:michael@kamprath.net" style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: unde=
rline;">michael@kamprath.net</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div=
><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" type=3D"cite"><d=
iv><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibr=
i, sans-serif;">=EF=BB=BFThanks!<o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div><div>=
<div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif=
;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div style=3D"mar=
gin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">I will point o=
ut that the<span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a href=3D"htt=
p://bitsofthegoldenage.org/documentation/mcs-85-documentation/" style=3D"col=
or: blue; text-decoration: underline;">documentation page</a><span class=3D"=
apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>linked from<span class=3D"apple-converte=
d-space">&nbsp;</span><a href=3D"https://bitsofthegoldenage.org/another-plat=
form-that-is-probably-dear-only-to-me/" style=3D"color: blue; text-decoratio=
n: underline;">your project page</a>&nbsp;has the BOM and other documentatio=
n for a "SBC-85 1Mbit Bubble=E2=80=9D rather than the MCS-85. Where might I f=
ind the BOM for the MCS-85+<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div=
><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-seri=
f;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div style=3D"ma=
rgin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Michael<o:p><=
/o:p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-=
size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div>=
</div></div><div><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; f=
ont-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><br><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></div></div></d=
iv><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" type=3D"cite">=
<div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Cali=
bri, sans-serif;">On Nov 21, 2022, at 1:14 PM, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:craig@s=
bc-85.com" style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">craig@sbc-85.c=
om</a>&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:craig@sbc-85.com" style=3D"color: blue; tex=
t-decoration: underline;">craig@sbc-85.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></div></=
div></div></div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-f=
amily: Calibri, sans-serif;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div><d=
iv><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sa=
ns-serif;">got it, thanks.<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div>=
<div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif=
;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div><div><div style=3D"border-style:=
 solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225=
); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-siz=
e: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><b>From:</b><span class=3D"apple=
-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Michael Kamprath &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michae=
l@kamprath.net" style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">michael@k=
amprath.net</a>&gt;<span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br><b=
>Sent:</b><span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Monday, Novembe=
r 21, 2022 12:40 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp=
;</span><a href=3D"mailto:craig@sbc-85.com" style=3D"color: blue; text-decor=
ation: underline;">craig@sbc-85.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class=3D"app=
le-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: MCS-85 minimum system board<o:p></o:p><=
/div></div></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in;=
 font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div>=
</div></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font=
-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Sent. Thanks!<o:p></o:p></p>=
<div><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:=
 Calibri, sans-serif;">Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div=
></div><div><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-=
family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><br><br><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></div></div></d=
iv></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" type=3D"=
cite"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 11pt;=
 font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">On Nov 21, 2022, at 12:25 PM,<span class=
=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a href=3D"mailto:craig@sbc-85.com" s=
tyle=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">craig@sbc-85.com</a><span c=
lass=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquot=
e></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" type=3D"c=
ite"><div><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-fa=
mily: Calibri, sans-serif;">=EF=BB=BF<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div><div=
><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,=
 sans-serif;">Thanks Michael<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div><div><div><di=
v><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-ser=
if;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div style=3D"m=
argin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">tracking #<s=
pan class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a href=3D"https://tools.us=
ps.com/go/TrackConfirmAction?tLabels=3D9400111206213546148486" target=3D"_bl=
ank" style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline;"><span style=3D"font-=
size: 10.5pt; font-family: Roboto; border: 1pt solid rgb(244, 246, 248); pad=
ding: 0in; background-color: white;">9400111206213546148486</span></a><o:p><=
/o:p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-=
size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div>=
</div></div><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-=
family: Calibri, sans-serif;">label was $3.67 plus $5 for the programmer boa=
rd set so $8.67<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div style=3D=
"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">my paypal i=
s<span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a href=3D"mailto:andrew=
sofbg@gmail.com" style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">andrewso=
fbg@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div styl=
e=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">&nbsp;=
<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in;=
 font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">thanks<o:p></o:p></div>=
</div></div></div><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt;=
 font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div=
><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Cal=
ibri, sans-serif;">craig<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><d=
iv style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div><div><div style=3D"border-style: s=
olid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225);=
 padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size:=
 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><b>From:</b><span class=3D"apple-c=
onverted-space">&nbsp;</span>Michael Kamprath &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michael@=
kamprath.net" style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">michael@kam=
prath.net</a>&gt;<span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br><b>S=
ent:</b><span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Monday, November 2=
1, 2022 11:09 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</=
span>SBC-85 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:craig@sbc-85.com" style=3D"color: blue; te=
xt-decoration: underline;">craig@sbc-85.com</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b><span c=
lass=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: MCS-85 minimum system board<=
o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div style=3D"m=
argin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-=
size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Sure:<o:p></o:p></div></div><=
/div></div><div><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; f=
ont-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div><=
/div><blockquote style=3D"margin: 5pt 0in 5pt 30pt;" type=3D"cite"><div><div=
><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,=
 sans-serif;">Michael Kamprath<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div></div><div>=
<div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Cali=
bri, sans-serif;">1945 Montecito Ave<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div></div=
><div><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family=
: Calibri, sans-serif;">Mountain View, CA 94043<o:p></o:p></div></div></div>=
</div></div></blockquote><div><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font=
-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div=
></div></div></div><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt=
; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Thanks!<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></d=
iv><div><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-fami=
ly: Calibri, sans-serif;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div></div><di=
v><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Ca=
libri, sans-serif;">Michael<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div></div><div><di=
v><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri=
, sans-serif;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div>=
<div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-=
serif;"><br><br><br><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div><blockquo=
te style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" type=3D"cite"><div><div><d=
iv><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sa=
ns-serif;">On Nov 21, 2022, at 10:50 AM, SBC-85 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:craig@=
sbc-85.com" style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">craig@sbc-85.=
com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><d=
iv style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div=
 style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">H=
i Michael, I guess I need your mailing address first. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div=
></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font=
-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div=
></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size:=
 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Regards<o:p></o:p></div></div></di=
v></div></div><div><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt=
; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><br><br><br><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></di=
v></div></div></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt=
;" type=3D"cite"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-=
size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">On Nov 1, 2022, at 10:58 AM, M=
ichael Kamprath &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michael@kamprath.net" style=3D"color: b=
lue; text-decoration: underline;">michael@kamprath.net</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></=
o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bott=
om: 5pt;" type=3D"cite"><div><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-=
size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">=EF=BB=BF<o:p></o:p></div></d=
iv></div></div><div><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11p=
t; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Craig,<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></d=
iv></div><div><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; fon=
t-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div></d=
iv><div><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-fami=
ly: Calibri, sans-serif;">I published my video covering the process of dumpi=
ng the ROM on the MOSTEK 3870 that is in my TEAMMATE Game Computer. I make r=
eference to your treatment on the F8 microprocessor. You can view my video h=
ere:<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><div style=3D=
"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">&nbsp;<o:p=
></o:p></div></div></div></div></div><blockquote style=3D"margin: 5pt 0in 5p=
t 30pt;" type=3D"cite"><div><div><div><table class=3D"MsoNormalTable" border=
=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" width=3D"300" style=3D"width: 225=
pt; background-color: rgb(229, 230, 233); border-collapse: collapse;"><tbody=
><tr><td style=3D"padding: 0in;"><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt;=
 font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-align: center;"><span style=3D"font-=
family: Helvetica, sans-serif;">&lt;maxresdefault.jpg&gt;</span><o:p></o:p><=
/div></td></tr><tr><td style=3D"padding: 0in;"><table class=3D"MsoNormalTabl=
e" border=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" width=3D"300" style=3D"w=
idth: 225pt; background-color: rgb(229, 230, 233);"><tbody><tr><td style=3D"=
padding: 6pt 0in;"><div style=3D"margin-left: 12pt; margin-right: 12pt; max-=
width: 100%; overflow: hidden;"><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; fo=
nt-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style=3D"font-size: 9=
pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;"><a href=3D"https://youtu.be/QBq6Z2U=
4Ob8" style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline;"><span style=3D"colo=
r: rgb(39, 39, 39); text-decoration: none;">The Vintage T.E.A.M.M.A.T.E. Gam=
e Computer - Part 1: Dumping the ROM</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></div></div=
></div></div><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font=
-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style=3D"font-size: 8.5pt; font-family:=
 Helvetica, sans-serif;"><a href=3D"https://youtu.be/QBq6Z2U4Ob8" style=3D"c=
olor: blue; text-decoration: underline;"><span style=3D"color: gray; text-de=
coration: none;">youtu.be</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></div></div></div></di=
v></div></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div><div=
><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,=
 sans-serif;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><d=
iv><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: C=
alibri, sans-serif;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div></div><div><di=
v><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri=
, sans-serif;">Next video will be on actually programming the computer, so u=
sing the assembler I already pointed out to you.<o:p></o:p></div></div></div=
></div></div><div><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt;=
 font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div=
></div><div><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-=
family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Thanks!<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div></di=
v><div><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-famil=
y: Calibri, sans-serif;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div></div><div=
><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Cal=
ibri, sans-serif;">Michael Kamprath<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div></div>=
<div><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:=
 Calibri, sans-serif;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div></div><div><=
div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, s=
ans-serif;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><di=
v style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">=
<br><br><br><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div><blockquote style=
=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" type=3D"cite"><div><div><div><div>=
<div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif=
;">On Oct 12, 2022, at 6:04 PM, Michael Kamprath &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:micha=
el@kamprath.net" style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">michael@=
kamprath.net</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div></div><div><di=
v><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, san=
s-serif;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><div>=
<div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif=
;">Comment has been left as requested.<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div><di=
v><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Ca=
libri, sans-serif;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div><div><blockquot=
e style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" type=3D"cite"><div><div><di=
v><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, san=
s-serif;">for the life of me, I can=E2=80=99t figure out what all these 3870=
 factory masked ROM buyers and sellers on ebay are doing with these chips.&n=
bsp; the chances of finding the one masked ROM you are looking for seems as i=
f it is infinitesimally small.<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div></div></blo=
ckquote><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-fami=
ly: Calibri, sans-serif;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div></div><di=
v><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Ca=
libri, sans-serif;">I know! I wonder if anyone is even buying them. I can se=
e the chip recyclers just dutifully pulling them, cleaning them, organizing t=
hem, and then selling them without much thought for what they have. But who w=
ould buy it?<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><di=
v style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">=
&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-t=
op: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" type=3D"cite"><div><div><div><div style=3D"mar=
gin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">I am retired s=
o I no longer make Gantt charts, timelines, schedules, budgets, or predictio=
ns.&nbsp; But it could easily be mid winter or later before I even get to fi=
nish the projects already on my bench and revisit the 3870 board.<o:p></o:p>=
</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0i=
n; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></di=
v></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size=
: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Well, I am not quite retired yet,=
 but I totally understand and am in no hurry myself. If you look at&nbsp;<a h=
ref=3D"https://www.youtube.com/c/MichaelKamprath" style=3D"color: blue; text=
-decoration: underline;">my own video schedule</a>&nbsp;you=E2=80=99ll see i=
t takes me months to get one video out. This is all just for fun only when I=
 have spare time. Kids, wife, work, yard =E2=80=A6 all come first.<o:p></o:p=
></div></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in=
; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div=
></div></div></div></div><div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-b=
ottom: 5pt;" type=3D"cite"><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-si=
ze: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">I tried soldering a surface mou=
nt 8085 the other day and I can=E2=80=99t believe I used to do that without g=
lasses, let alone a magnifier lens.<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div></bloc=
kquote><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-famil=
y: Calibri, sans-serif;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div></div><div=
><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Cal=
ibri, sans-serif;">While I am at the point where I need multiple glasses for=
 different scenarios (driving, computer, reading, etc), I don=E2=80=99t quit=
e need them yet for soldering. It=E2=80=99s coming, I know.<o:p></o:p></div>=
</div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-=
size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div>=
</div></div></div><div><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 1=
1pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Michael Kamprath<o:p></o:p></div></d=
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